Based on the required signal levels listed in Aviat's spec sheets, it shouldn't be that hard to achieve 4096QAM. I don't remember what the numbers were off hand, but it was well within what I would expect on a real world link.
On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 9:59 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: > Just to be clear, the links are actually running at 4096QAM? That’s > pretty impressive. > > > > But is it like saying you own a 250 mph car? It may be true, but you also > may not be able to verify it from personal experience. > > > > > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Adair Winter > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 15, 2020 9:46 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Licensed radios > > > > Hell ya we do, we have three 4096 QAM links running and about to add one > more. > > It's the only way to go > > > > On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 9:43 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: > > You have actual links running 4096QAM IRL? > > > > I thought it was more like being able to land a quadruple axel. Once. In > practice. OK, define “land”. Walk away? Able to skate again once the > cast comes off? > > > > But I have to admit my view of licensed backhaul capacity has evolved as > video streaming has come to dominate the Internet. Once I thought the only > number that mattered was the 5 nines throughput, or worst case 4 nines. > But customers stream 24x7 and will raise a much bigger fuss over > most-of-the-time speed than over the occasional drop in capacity or even > outage. > > > > Still, even on 2048QAM radios, actually getting 2048QAM seems like hitting > all green lights on the way to work. It’s nice, but you don’t bet your > life on it, or cry when you see the modulation drop to 1024QAM for no > apparent reason. Or 256 or 512 during heavy rain. Maybe if you have all > really short links. We are rural and don’t have that luxury. Most of our > links are 6-10 miles. And given that our climate future seems to look like > Waterworld, rain cannot be ignored. > > > > > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Andreas Wiatowski > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 15, 2020 8:05 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Licensed radios > > > > I find the Aviat radios easier to configure…but the Cambium/Ceragon is > more of a mature platform. Aviat however does 4096QAM. > > > > *Internet.*** > ** > *Phone.****TV.* > > *Andreas Wiatowski* > > CEO/Founder > > Silo > > *1-866-727-4138, ext 600* <1-866-727-4138,%20ext%20600> > > | > > *andr...@silo.ca* <andr...@silo.ca> > > *silo.ca* <http://www.silo.ca/> > > > > > > > > *From: *AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> on behalf of Gino Villarini < > g...@aeronetpr.com> > *Reply-To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> > *Date: *Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 4:31 AM > *To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Licensed radios > > > > [EXTERNAL] > > Right… yeah mind f*** the 820c is a dual core radio… the Bridgewave and > Aviat radios that do this are single core… so less $$$ > > > > *From: *AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> on behalf of Erich Kaiser < > er...@northcentraltower.com> > *Reply-To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> > *Date: *Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 5:16 AM > *To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Licensed radios > > > > No you can do ACCP on one unit, you just need a combiner that they sell > that goes between the dish and radio. Non-Adjacent channels could be an > option with two radios but probably would do it with two PTP820S and a > combiner. > > > > > Erich Kaiser > > North Central Tower > > er...@northcentraltower.com > > Office: 815-570-3101 > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 2:39 AM Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> > wrote: > > Don’t you need an extra radio for this on the 820C? > > > > *Gino** Villarini * > Founder/President > @gvillarini > t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204 > m: > > <http://www.aeronetpr.com/> > > <http://www.aeronetpr.com/> > > <http://www.aeronetpr.com/> > > <http://www.aeronetpr.com/> > > <http://www.aeronetpr.com/> > > <http://www.aeronetpr.com/> > > <http://www.aeronetpr.com/> > > *www.aeronetpr.com* | Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, PR 00968 > <http://www.aeronetpr.com/> > > > > > > *From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> on behalf of Erich Kaiser > <er...@northcentraltower.com>Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > <af@af.afmug.com>Date: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 2:49 AMTo: AnimalFarm > Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Licensed radios > <http://www.aeronetpr.com/>* > > <http://www.aeronetpr.com/> > > PTP820C does this its called ACCP. <http://www.aeronetpr.com/> > > <http://www.aeronetpr.com/> > > > <http://www.aeronetpr.com/> > > Erich Kaiser <http://www.aeronetpr.com/> > > North Central Tower <http://www.aeronetpr.com/> > > *er...@northcentraltower.com* <http://www.aeronetpr.com/> > > Office: 815-570-3101 <http://www.aeronetpr.com/> > > <http://www.aeronetpr.com/> > > <http://www.aeronetpr.com/> > > <http://www.aeronetpr.com/> > > <http://www.aeronetpr.com/> > > On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 4:17 PM SmarterBroadband <*li...@sbb.net*> wrote: > <http://www.aeronetpr.com/> > > Hi <http://www.aeronetpr.com/> > > <http://www.aeronetpr.com/> > > The BridgeWave Navigator states it can have more than 2x80 channels on one > dual core radio, however the extra channels have to be adjacent. > <http://www.aeronetpr.com/> > > <http://www.aeronetpr.com/> > > Do any other vendors do this in 11 and 18GHz Today (no vaporware). And > do any have non-adjacent channels? <http://www.aeronetpr.com/> > > <http://www.aeronetpr.com/> > > Thanks <http://www.aeronetpr.com/> > > <http://www.aeronetpr.com/> > > Adam <http://www.aeronetpr.com/> > > -- > AF mailing list > *AF@af.afmug.com* > *http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com* > <http://www.aeronetpr.com/> > > -- > AF mailing list > *AF@af.afmug.com* > *http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com* > <http://www.aeronetpr.com/> > > -- > AF mailing list > *AF@af.afmug.com* > *http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com* > <http://www.aeronetpr.com/> > > > <http://www.aeronetpr.com/> > > <http://www.aeronetpr.com/> > > -- <http://www.aeronetpr.com/> > > Adair Winter > VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner > Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 > C: 806.231.7180 > *http://www.amarillowireless.net* > <http://www.aeronetpr.com/> > > <http://www.aeronetpr.com/> > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
-- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
