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----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ryan Ray" <ryan...@gmail.com> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 4:22:41 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The Future https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1214548764054216704 Straight from the gods mouth I guess. On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 12:52 PM Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: I would be surprised if there were motors in there. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Matt Hoppes" < mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" < af@af.afmug.com > Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 2:49:50 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The Future OK but are these phased array antennas like beam steering well they have stepper motors in them? Because the moment you add motors you had parts that are going to break sooner or later. Plus if we really think that a self install is going to work for a customer I think we are giving the customer way too much credit. First of all a cable still Hass to be run to the antenna and put through the wall of the house, secondly we all know customers are going to try to install it in the worst possible location, under a tree, under a deck, or someplace that has great aesthetic value but terrible propagation to the night sky. On Jan 21, 2020, at 3:45 PM, Carl Peterson < cpeter...@portnetworks.com > wrote: <blockquote> "Customer CPE is a pizza box ufo <$200 and they are starting in 2020, but there's no pictures or details. How is that even possible? We're buying 450b at a more expensive cost and there ain't no phased antenna with motors in it." The question is what do the parts or materials actually cost in large quantities? Cambium makes its money off of selling 450s. They aren't interested in selling them to you as cheap as possible so you can make more recurring revenue. SpaceX wants a piece of that 30B recurring revenue and in order to do that they need a ~$200 CPE that users could install themselves or have joe taskrabbit install for them with nothing more then a screwdriver and perhaps a cordless drill. Elon has shown time and time again that he is willing to go all in any time the pot odds are good. There are some great pot odds here and I wouldn't bet against Elon, at least in the long run. On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 2:19 PM Ryan Ray < ryan...@gmail.com > wrote: <blockquote> I'm still very wary of this. There seems to be a lot of over-promising under delivering. In typical Elon fashion, no details but the world runs with it and puts out all these data models that make it seem like the second coming of christ. Customer CPE is a pizza box ufo <$200 and they are starting in 2020, but there's no pictures or details. How is that even possible? We're buying 450b at a more expensive cost and there ain't no phased antenna with motors in it. Then all you read online is the cult following of spaceslax who takes a twitter post as gospel and just keeps perpetuating the same tired information. On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 10:02 AM Bill Prince < part15...@gmail.com > wrote: <blockquote> If the SpaceX Starlink system works at 50% of what it's hyped, it will become the future of rural internet. Urban is still going to be dominated (eventually) by fiber for the foreseeable future. Higher speed wireless will be very, very local. bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 1/19/2020 6:29 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote: > I don’t know why, but this evening got me thinking about broadband delivery > over the past 30 years and the future of broadband. > > First we had nothing, then along came dial-up and that was amazing and many > companies sprung up offering the service. Giants like AOL and Prodigy. > > Then DSL and Cable came along as well as wireless and dial-up has all but > died. > > Now DSL is basically dead, cable and wireless have gone through several > iterations and we are seeing a push to fiber. > > What’s the possibility in the next 10 years cable and wireless will be dead > technologies with fiber at the fore front? Possibly. > > But then..... is fiber really future proof? We are talking about investing > hundreds of millions into fiber infrastructure, because it’s “the future”. > But is it? > > So far every technology delivery mechanism to date has become obsolete in as > little as 6-10 years. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com </blockquote> -- Carl Peterson PORT NETWORKS 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 Baltimore, MD 21202 (410) 637-3707 </blockquote> <blockquote> -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com </blockquote> -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com </blockquote> -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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