But still.... do you send a pre-terminated cable? If so.... how long? How does the end user get it through a wall? What if they damage an end?

How will they mount this thing? Under an eve? What happens when the modulation is poor? Crap service? Dragging down the entire bird?

On 1/21/20 5:57 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
Yeah... there are certainly plenty of people who can do a self install just fine, but there's a reason that Directv and Dish Network both shifted away from self installs after the first couple of years... well, several reasons, including that aligning the antennas got a lot more complicated, but that probably wasn't the biggest reason.

Plug into the socket and point at the sky sounds good and all, but there's still the problem of getting the wire from the sock to a place where you can point at the sky... and keeping the thing where it can point at the sky. In my experience, most end users don't want to do that.

If they just offer it as an option for people with some clue what they're doing, perhaps it will work fine.

On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 4:41 PM Robert Andrews <i...@avantwireless.com <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote:

    The first version of DirecTV was self install, I know because I did it.
       They had many many thousands of successful self installs the
    first two
    years with just a flashing led to guide you.   They are planning on
    having the CPE's integrated into the roofs of Tesla cars in the future.
       They aren't joking about making this easy and they are great at
    thinking outside the pizza box.   Our runway is getting shorter...

    On 01/21/2020 01:39 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
     > The CPE end is fixed, in that the antenna is mounted, and doesn't
    move.
     >
     > Unless it's something that you can throw on a desk and plug into an
     > outlet, self install simply isn't realistic.
     > Dish Network offered a self install option early on (back when
    they were
     > only using a single satellite, and it was relatively simple)... they
     > gave up on that pretty quickly. Heck, we even had a self install
    option
     > when we first started doing fixed wireless. It didn't take long
    to learn
     > a lot of reasons why that's a bad idea.
     >
     > On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 3:30 PM Carl Peterson
     > <cpeter...@portnetworks.com <mailto:cpeter...@portnetworks.com>
    <mailto:cpeter...@portnetworks.com
    <mailto:cpeter...@portnetworks.com>>> wrote:
     >
     >     Ground to LEO isn't fixed wireless.  The "tower" is moving
    and the
     >     client is roaming.
     >
     >
     >     On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 3:21 PM Jason McKemie
     >     <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com
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     >     <mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com
    <mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>>> wrote:
     >
     >         Customer installed fixed wireless doesn't work well. I'm sure
     >         they'll figure this out too late, I still don't
    understand why
     >         big companies refuse to learn from other's mistakes.
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