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On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 11:07 AM <g...@shireeninc.com> wrote:

> You have a 50/50 chance of being correct.
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> As you risk your business, that would be a risk to Shireen, Inc. also.
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> Other than suggesting: Cat6 up towers over 100’, move to fiber, or use
> hybrid cables.  I think your risk of regret is low. 😉
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> I have also answered your copper damaging concern in a previous email to
> this forum on this subject.
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> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 29, 2020 9:33 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Water Blocking Dry Tape
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> we started using this apex 9 stuff on residential, I think its shireen
> rebranded, i dont know. We have recently started taking the risk of using
> it on POPs instead of the BBDGE simply for cost savings, we will probably
> come to regret it when we are pulling it all out and putting BBDGE back in
> like we did with the BBDNE. To concept seems solid wit the embedded tape,
> but it also makes me wonder if it absorbs the water and when it freezes it
> will damage the copper.
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> On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 8:23 AM <g...@shireeninc.com> wrote:
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> If I can assist anyone with any concerns, please feel free to ask
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> g...@shireeninc.com
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Matt
> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2020 9:08 AM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Water Blocking Dry Tape
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> > This is a little off the subject but more to do with water migration.
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> > Decades of working with coaxial cable on towers has taught me that a
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> cut out of the jacket at the bottom of a drop loop before entering a
> shelter
> or cabinet goes a long way to preventing water migration into connectors.
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> I put a new connector on and do that on runs that have gotten water in
> them.
> Just hate to do it on a good run but its a good point.  Always leave a
> generous service loop now days to make this possible.
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> > Water is a lot like electricity... Always seeking the path of least
> resistance.
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> > On Tue, Jan 28, 2020, 8:06 PM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> >> I agree. We've been using the shireen stuff on towers for awhile. If
> there's a bad enough leak, it will eventually make it to the bottom, but
> it's definitely better than nothing.
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> >> On Tue, Jan 28, 2020, 4:51 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> We use the Shireen stuff.  I'd rate the dry gel tape as good not great.
> >>> It's certainly better than the Belden we used to use, which has a
> >>> cellophane like wrap that seems to guide the water all the way to
> >>> the RJ45 at the bottom.
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> >>> The tape gets soggy, it doesn't turn into water blocking gel like in
> >>> a gel filled cable.  I'm not sure how I feel about some soggy tape
> >>> inside the cable 100 feet up, but I don't think I've experienced
> >>> drops of water coming out the bottom of any of the Shireen cable.
> >>> You absolutely do want to tape or otherwise weatherproof the ends of
> >>> any spare cables though, or they will absorb water and you'll have
> >>> to cut off several feet if you ever want to terminate and use them.
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> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Matt
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 4:16 PM
> >>> To: af@af.afmug.com
> >>> Subject: [AFMUG] Cat5 Water Blocking Dry Tape
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> >>> Has anyone used shielded cat5 up tower with water blocking dry tape?
> >>> Does it work very well in case of water intrusion?
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> >>> Once in rare while we will get a run with water in it.  I always
> >>> think when it happens someone did something wrong on install but a
> >>> real pain when it happens.
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