Always a catch. Theres got to be some underlying scam

On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 3:00 PM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

> No catch anymore. Initially, its downfall was that the CA wasn't
> universally supported. It basically is now.
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> *From: *"Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Sent: *Friday, February 21, 2020 2:54:10 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Security Certificate Questions
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> I hate apple
> apple sucks
> garbage
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> What is the catch with letsencrypt? Nothing is free
>
> On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 2:53 PM Dan Spitler <d...@common.net> wrote:
>
>> Warning about long-term paid certs: Apple is going to start rejecting
>> certs with expiration dates longer than 13 months:
>> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/02/20/apple_shorter_cert_lifetime/
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 12:09 PM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I spend more time baby sitting real SSL certs (every two years at
>>> renewal) than Let's Encrypt...  and I have more Let's Encrypt.
>>>
>>> If there's a clear, reliable way of doing Let's Encrypt...  do it.
>>>
>>> If not, use a paid cert until someone else gets the bruises getting
>>> Let's Encrypt to work solidly on whatever you're doing with it.
>>>
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>>> *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com>
>>> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
>>> *Sent: *Friday, February 21, 2020 2:04:55 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Security Certificate Questions
>>>
>>> I don't have experience with letsencrypt but a webserver software mailing
>>> list I'm on has constant traffic about problems with certs not
>>> renewing.  It
>>> may be specific to that software, but my gut tells me if this is
>>> something
>>> mission critical and you don't want to monitor it for problems, just pay
>>> a
>>> regular cert authority.  It's not a trivial amount of money, but not
>>> Bloomberg money either.  I have too many things demanding my time already
>>> without having to babysit website certs.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen
>>> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 1:41 PM
>>> To: af@af.afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Security Certificate Questions
>>>
>>> On 2/21/20 11:28 AM, Larry Smith wrote:
>>> > Mark,
>>> >
>>> >    Look at letsencrypt.org.  They have free certs for personal and
>>> > minor use.
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> Anyone can use Let's Encrypt for anything. Personal, commercial, for
>>> profit,
>>> not for profit, whatever you imagine.
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