Whoops old reply! I replied to one that was in search when I thought I was in 
the list folder :) 

Oh and PS 

Apple sucks 

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From: "Steven Kenney" <st...@wavedirect.org> 
To: "af" <af@af.afmug.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 11:05:34 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Security Certificate Questions 

+100000000000000000 

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From: "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> 
To: "af" <af@af.afmug.com> 
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 3:54:10 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Security Certificate Questions 

I hate apple 
apple sucks 
garbage 

What is the catch with letsencrypt? Nothing is free 

On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 2:53 PM Dan Spitler < [ mailto:d...@common.net | 
d...@common.net ] > wrote: 



Warning about long-term paid certs: Apple is going to start rejecting certs 
with expiration dates longer than 13 months: [ 
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/02/20/apple_shorter_cert_lifetime/ | 
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/02/20/apple_shorter_cert_lifetime/ ] 

On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 12:09 PM Mike Hammett < [ mailto:af...@ics-il.net | 
af...@ics-il.net ] > wrote: 

BQ_BEGIN

I spend more time baby sitting real SSL certs (every two years at renewal) than 
Let's Encrypt... and I have more Let's Encrypt. 
If there's a clear, reliable way of doing Let's Encrypt... do it. 

If not, use a paid cert until someone else gets the bruises getting Let's 
Encrypt to work solidly on whatever you're doing with it. 



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From: "Ken Hohhof" < [ mailto:af...@kwisp.com | af...@kwisp.com ] > 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" < [ mailto:af@af.afmug.com | 
af@af.afmug.com ] > 
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 2:04:55 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Security Certificate Questions 

I don't have experience with letsencrypt but a webserver software mailing 
list I'm on has constant traffic about problems with certs not renewing. It 
may be specific to that software, but my gut tells me if this is something 
mission critical and you don't want to monitor it for problems, just pay a 
regular cert authority. It's not a trivial amount of money, but not 
Bloomberg money either. I have too many things demanding my time already 
without having to babysit website certs. 

-----Original Message----- 
From: AF < [ mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com | af-boun...@af.afmug.com ] > On 
Behalf Of Seth Mattinen 
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 1:41 PM 
To: [ mailto:af@af.afmug.com | af@af.afmug.com ] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Security Certificate Questions 

On 2/21/20 11:28 AM, Larry Smith wrote: 
> Mark, 
> 
> Look at [ http://letsencrypt.org/ | letsencrypt.org ] . They have free certs 
> for personal and 
> minor use. 
> 


Anyone can use Let's Encrypt for anything. Personal, commercial, for profit, 
not for profit, whatever you imagine. 

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