Its extremist to not buy into the hype, its extremist to know what it would
actually take to contain it if the hype were true? Pick a team Carl.
how would you stop people from flooding out of a major urban area like
chicago? just politely ask them to stay? A quarantine is a nothing in
nothing out, literally the entire point. Or are you fine with letting
people in a quarantine have the choice?

On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 10:19 AM Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com>
wrote:

> Jesus Christ Steve, could you please drop this BS!  It is insulting and
> pretty disgusting.  Keep your extremist BS on some right wing troll list.
> It doesn't belong here.
>
> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 10:14 AM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> a serious question, are they going to delay the census? Seems to me if
>> this is as infectious as the media would like you to believe that having
>> people going door to door in communities wouldnt be such a great idea.
>>
>> If the left gets what they want, a tragic outcome to blame on the current
>> executive, they may have to accept the consequence, less house of rep seats
>> since they get their seats from cities, and cities is what plagues decimate.
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 10:09 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Brilliant!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Maybe send them via cruise ship.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 2, 2020 10:04 AM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We could just send anyone with this bug to China.  Problem solved.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Ken Hohhof
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 2, 2020 9:00 AM
>>>
>>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Maybe they can send it to us.  Today for the first time I heard the term
>>> “surge capacity” applied to hospital beds.  Person was saying US healthcare
>>> industry has made hospitals efficient same way as airlines, aim for zero
>>> empty beds, with the result that there’s not much surge capacity.  Let’s
>>> hope somebody’s looking at ways to open up more facilities in areas where
>>> outbreaks happen.  The Chinese weren’t stupid with their modular approach
>>> to quickly creating a field hospital.  Reminds me of MASH.  Time for a bug
>>> out!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I did a quick Google search for “hospital surge capacity” and the first
>>> page of results were mostly studies after Katrina.  A hurricane is worse
>>> because it closes down hospitals and pharmacies, eliminating capacity.
>>> With the coronavirus what I suspect we need to guard against is infecting
>>> all the hospital staff and first responders so they get quarantined.  This
>>> appears to be happening with that nursing home in Kirkland, Washington.  25
>>> firefighters are now quarantined as a precaution because they had been to
>>> that facility.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 2, 2020 8:44 AM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chinas closing their first hospital they built since they dont have
>>> enough patients
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020, 8:42 AM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Perish the thought! 3-hour-old baguettes! I would rather die from
>>> COVID-19 before eating an old baguette!
>>>
>>> If I smoke another cigarette, I can aggravate my COPD and hasten the end.
>>>
>>> bp
>>>
>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/2/2020 5:57 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>>
>>> Well, the French are screwed, they don’t even stock food for tonight’s
>>> dinner.  Because who wants to eat 2 hour old baguettes.  Probably the only
>>> thing in their pantry is cigarettes and wine.  But at least if these are
>>> the end times, they have cigarettes and wine while they watch the end.  Who
>>> cares about Spam and Vienna sausages.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On
>>> Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 2, 2020 6:25 AM
>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You need the disaster to occur to justify all your preparation.  Some
>>> part of you is rooting for it.
>>>
>>> Just a hypothesis.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/1/2020 10:15 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>>
>>> i never understood it, on the right, we tend to be the most prepared.
>>> most of the die hard preppers are right minded. we tend to be the most
>>> capable of utilizing primal tools and food/water sources. if it goes
>>> boogity, we have the best firepower and ammunition and training. so i never
>>> understood why people on the right get very nervous about these things. a
>>> lot like devout christians worying about end times and rapture.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 8:09 PM Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> My oldest home - again son is much worse than you guys.  He is very alt
>>> right too.  He might be Alex Jones... I have never seen them both at the
>>> same place at the same time.  He is certain Kung flu is gonna get us all.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 1, 2020, at 6:14 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies <m...@mailmt.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  On a side note.  Thanks for letting me rant and rave here.  Can't do
>>> it at home, wife just rolls eyes and tells me I'm a grumpy old man.  Chuck,
>>> I know you are saving me a few $ in therapy.  So, Thank You.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best regards,
>>> Mark                            mailto:m...@mailmt.com <m...@mailmt.com>
>>>
>>> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
>>> www.Myakka.com
>>>
>>> ------
>>>
>>> Sunday, March 1, 2020, 7:47:53 PM, you wrote:
>>>
>>> OK, maybe this is hysterical reporting (it’s from Washington Post after
>>> all), but sounds kind of science-y.
>>>
>>> The novel coronavirus has probably been spreading undetected for about
>>> six weeks in Washington state, where the first U.S. death was reported this
>>> weekend. A genetic analysis suggests that the cases are linked through
>>> community transmission and that this has been going on for weeks, with
>>> hundreds of infections likely in the state.
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 1, 2020 6:21 PM
>>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu
>>>
>>> Must be a Florida thing, or a Walmart thing.  I have not seen news
>>> reports anything close to “we are all going to die”.
>>>
>>> And I just stopped at the grocery store, no signs at all of people
>>> buying up all the Lysol and Purell.  I did buy a couple of the pump bottles
>>> of foaming hand soap we like, but the shelf was full.  News reports have
>>> said wash your hands and that it’s good advice for seasonal flu as well, I
>>> don’t think that’s doomsday advice.
>>>
>>> I have not checked Walmart, maybe things are all crazy there (as
>>> usual).  Actually I have to admit that I recently discovered the steaks
>>> from Walmart are actually pretty good, they were branded Tyson Fresh Meats.
>>>
>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Mark - Myakka
>>> Technologies
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 1, 2020 5:53 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu
>>>
>>> There are only a few things we know for sure.
>>>
>>> 1. It is already in the US
>>> 2. More people in the US will get it
>>> 3. More people in the US will die.
>>>
>>> Anything other than this is pure speculation at this point.  We don't
>>> know anything about this virus.  Most everything I hear or read about this
>>> virus starts off with the equivalent of "WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE".  But if
>>> you bother to listen or read the article, it always has "may" or "some
>>> experts".  The current official incubation period is 2-14 days, but hey
>>> lets just report 14 days and base all our models on this and report it as
>>> the most likely scenario.  We don't know how long it lives on surfaces.  We
>>> don't know how it reacts to UV light.  We don't know how it will do in
>>> warm/humid conditions.
>>>
>>> My opinion (just as valid as anyone else's),  This virus has been in the
>>> states before the first reported case.  People have had it and recovered
>>> thinking it was just the flu. Not everyone exposed is going to get it.  Not
>>> everyone who gets it is going to need to be hospitalized.  Not everyone who
>>> gets hospitalized will die.
>>>
>>> The media once again is doing us a huge dis-service. They are hyping
>>> this thing  way out of proportion.  Was at Wal-mart yesterday. Every can of
>>> Lysol or Lysol type of product was gone.  Every package of disinfectant
>>> wipes were gone.  Every bottle of any sized hand sanitizer, gone.  Crazy.
>>> The closest reported "maybe" case is over 1300 miles away.  God forbid we
>>> get a reported case in Florida, what will happen then?  Going to start
>>> burning and looting?
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best regards,
>>> Mark                            mailto:m...@mailmt.com <m...@mailmt.com>
>>>
>>> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
>>> www.Myakka.com
>>>
>>> ------
>>>
>>> Sunday, March 1, 2020, 3:55:47 PM, you wrote:
>>>
>>> I am not a doctor. I don't even play one on TV or any podcasts or blogs.
>>> I do pay attention to as much scientifically-based information I can find
>>> though.
>>> This is a pretty good synopsis on our current knowledge without any spin:
>>>
>>> https://www.sciencenews.org/article/what-new-phase-coronavirus-outbreak-united-states-means-you
>>>
>>> bp
>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>
>>> On 2/10/2020 8:53 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>>
>>> Nazis are socialists.  Bernie is a socialist.  Therefore Bernie is a
>>> Nazi.  So the Internet says.
>>>
>>> *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On
>>> Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>>> *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2020 10:48 AM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
>>> <af@af.afmug.com>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)
>>>
>>> thats the secret, remember russia shafted the nazis last time... russia
>>> is in asia, so russians are asians. Taking them out of the running too....
>>> Weve said too much
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:45 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Nazis also hate Communists.  It all fits.
>>>
>>> On 2/10/2020 11:41 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>>
>>> Im suprised that hasnt gotten traction. This is obviously genetically
>>> designed to target Asians. The proof is that 99% of infections are asians.
>>> Obviously this is the resurgence of the Nazi party trying to eliminate a
>>> majority of the population so they can initiate another run at global
>>> domination. My neighbors mom, Karen told me that her friend, carols husband
>>> Brad told her that he heard that this is what brexit was all about. Germany
>>> and Great Britian are forming an alliance now. Its all hush hush, but there
>>> is a shadow government of guess what... Nazis.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:33 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> You mean.....Nazi's created Coronavirus?
>>>
>>> On 2/10/2020 11:30 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>> > I'm waiting for Godwin...
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > bp
>>> > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>> >
>>> > On 2/10/2020 8:26 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>>> >> The thing driving me nuts right now is that literally everything is a
>>> >> "conspiracy".
>>> >>
>>> >> Sometimes stuff happens, nobody did it on purpose, and nobody has the
>>> >> whole picture of what happened until more time passes. In the interim
>>> >> there's a lot of conflicting information going around. People latch
>>> >> onto early bits of information that turn out to be wrong and they
>>> >> won't let go of them.
>>> >>
>>> >> Coronavirus was created by the Chinese to distract press from Hong
>>> Kong
>>> >>
>>> >> Coronavirus was created by the USA to defeat China in a trade war
>>> >>
>>> >> Coronavirus was created by Budweiser to discredit Mexican Lager (I
>>> >> mean that one's obviously a joke.....right?)
>>> >>
>>> >> Coronavirus will kill us all and we must all stock our survival
>>> bunkers.
>>> >>
>>> >> China is hiding all the information about Coronavirus.  Really? Or
>>> >> maybe they just don't have a live real-time omniscient feed of all
>>> >> information so they're reporting what they think is true at the time
>>> >> it's said, or maybe rumors on Facebook aren't all true.
>>> >>
>>> >> See Hanlon's Razor and Occam's Razor.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On 2/10/2020 11:03 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>> >>> Starting a new thread to make this discussion off topic.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I had my flu shot BTW. No fever here.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Still zero reported deaths in the US, and only about a dozen actual
>>> >>> infections. I am still thinking this is not a big deal. Novel
>>> >>> Coronavirus appears to be more infectious than SARS, but not
>>> >>> particularly deadly.
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >
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