the masks at the door are not n95 On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 1:13 PM Robert Andrews <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:
> This whole mask thing sometimes gets me. So if I buy a case of N95 > masks from Home Depot, that would affect the purchase of masks for a > hospital? Hospitals are buying the same quality masks as Home Depot is > selling? The suppliers aren't making the same masks for Home Depot and > are not prioritizing Home Depot masks over Hospital masks. Maybe that's > the throw away masks that they are handing people who walk in the door, > but if people are buying those at Home Depot before they get to the > hospital, that would be worse? > > > > On 03/02/2020 10:51 AM, Steven Kenney wrote: > > FEMA has a ton of resources ready for emergencies and they circulate > > their stock. The medical system does not. Because its made up of a > > lot of independent hospitals bent on profit. So the CDC or some other > > federal agency needs to fit the bill and have non perishable stuff in > > stock. If something like this ever hit the US they will be unprepared > > supply wise. Most of the stuff isn't even made here so by the time they > > refit plants to produce it may be too late. > > > > I mean hell they ordered those millions and millions of rounds of > > ammunition (including hollow points) during the Obama admin. Sounds > > like one agency thinks ahead! > > > > -- > > Steven Kenney > > Network Operations Manager > > WaveDirect Telecommunications > > http://www.wavedirect.net > > (519)737-WAVE (9283) > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From: *"Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > > *To: *"af" <af@af.afmug.com> > > *Sent: *Monday, March 2, 2020 1:07:55 PM > > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu > > > > You think they should have 3 billion dollars worth of masks on hand at > > all times? I cant imagine the resources to manage that inventory, let > > alone cycle it out. One mouse could do a lot of damage > > > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2020, 11:39 AM Steven Kenney <st...@wavedirect.org > > <mailto:st...@wavedirect.org>> wrote: > > > > No I mean if they are low on supply - then they are unprepared! > > > > -- > > Steven Kenney > > Network Operations Manager > > WaveDirect Telecommunications > > http://www.wavedirect.net > > (519)737-WAVE (9283) > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From: *"Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > > <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> > > *To: *"af" <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> > > *Sent: *Monday, March 2, 2020 12:24:24 PM > > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu > > > > The surgeon general warning says not to buy them because they dont > > work. Thats an odd duck announcement. they dont fit a larger > > percentage of the population, half the people you see in them have a > > gap by their noses, which means theyre trapping the virus inside the > > mask. and if youre not going to shave, dont even bother. Same reason > > firemen have mustaches and not beards > > > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 11:21 AM Steven Kenney <st...@wavedirect.org > > <mailto:st...@wavedirect.org>> wrote: > > > > Apparently MUM has been canceled because of the panic. > > > > -- > > Steven Kenney > > Network Operations Manager > > WaveDirect Telecommunications > > http://www.wavedirect.net > > (519)737-WAVE (9283) > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From: *"Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > > <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> > > *To: *"af" <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> > > *Sent: *Monday, March 2, 2020 12:02:40 PM > > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu > > > > I think this topic has \lent > > but anybody watching this: > > Market Summary > > < > https://www.google.com/search?q=finance&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS887US887&oq=dow+jo&aqs=chrome.0.35i39j69i57j0l6.3975j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&stick=H4sIAAAAAAAAAOPQeMSozC3w8sc9YSmpSWtOXmMU4RJyy8xLzEtO9UnMS8nMSw9ITE_lAQCCiJIYKAAAAA&tbm=fin&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiQmZTAovznAhUTCjQIHfucDiAQ6M8CMAB6BAhAEAI&sxsrf=ALeKk02NB20xnoAVtEGZ3O3rXmLIN6CAsA:1583168566404> > > > > Dow Jones Industrial Average > > INDEXDJX: .DJI > > Follow > > 26,178.22+768.86 (3.03%) > > > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 11:01 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com > > <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote: > > > > It does seem like it would please some of them. > > But we are in the middle of Lent right now, right? > > *From:* Adam Moffett > > *Sent:* Monday, March 2, 2020 9:55 AM > > *To:* af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu > > > > Steve, the extremist part is where you think "the left" > > wants a tragic outcome. > > > > On 3/2/2020 11:49 AM, Steve Jones wrote: > > > > Its extremist to not buy into the hype, its extremist to > > know what it would actually take to contain it if the > > hype were true? Pick a team Carl. > > how would you stop people from flooding out of a major > > urban area like chicago? just politely ask them to stay? > > A quarantine is a nothing in nothing out, literally the > > entire point. Or are you fine with letting people in a > > quarantine have the choice? > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 10:19 AM Carl Peterson > > <cpeter...@portnetworks.com > > <mailto:cpeter...@portnetworks.com>> wrote: > > > > Jesus Christ Steve, could you please drop this BS! > > It is insulting and pretty disgusting. Keep your > > extremist BS on some right wing troll list. It > > doesn't belong here. > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 10:14 AM Steve Jones > > <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > > <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > a serious question, are they going to delay the > > census? Seems to me if this is as infectious as > > the media would like you to believe that having > > people going door to door in communities wouldnt > > be such a great idea. > > If the left gets what they want, a tragic > > outcome to blame on the current executive, they > > may have to accept the consequence, less house > > of rep seats since they get their seats from > > cities, and cities is what plagues decimate. > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 10:09 AM Ken Hohhof > > <af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> > wrote: > > > > Brilliant! > > > > Maybe send them via cruise ship. > > > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com > > <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf > > Of *ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > > *Sent:* Monday, March 2, 2020 10:04 AM > > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > > <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu > > > > We could just send anyone with this bug to > > China. Problem solved. > > > > *From:*Ken Hohhof > > > > *Sent:*Monday, March 2, 2020 9:00 AM > > > > *To:*'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' > > > > *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu > > > > Maybe they can send it to us. Today for the > > first time I heard the term “surge capacity” > > applied to hospital beds. Person was saying > > US healthcare industry has made hospitals > > efficient same way as airlines, aim for zero > > empty beds, with the result that there’s not > > much surge capacity. Let’s hope somebody’s > > looking at ways to open up more facilities > > in areas where outbreaks happen. The > > Chinese weren’t stupid with their modular > > approach to quickly creating a field > > hospital. Reminds me of MASH. Time for a > > bug out! > > > > I did a quick Google search for “hospital > > surge capacity” and the first page of > > results were mostly studies after Katrina. > > A hurricane is worse because it closes down > > hospitals and pharmacies, eliminating > > capacity. With the coronavirus what I > > suspect we need to guard against is > > infecting all the hospital staff and first > > responders so they get quarantined. This > > appears to be happening with that nursing > > home in Kirkland, Washington. 25 > > firefighters are now quarantined as a > > precaution because they had been to that > > facility. > > > > *From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com > > <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf > > Of *Steve Jones > > *Sent:* Monday, March 2, 2020 8:44 AM > > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > > <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu > > > > Chinas closing their first hospital they > > built since they dont have enough patients > > > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2020, 8:42 AM Bill Prince > > <part15...@gmail.com > > <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > Perish the thought! 3-hour-old > > baguettes! I would rather die from > > COVID-19 before eating an old baguette! > > > > If I smoke another cigarette, I can > > aggravate my COPD and hasten the end. > > > > bp > > > > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > > > On 3/2/2020 5:57 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > > > Well, the French are screwed, they > > don’t even stock food for tonight’s > > dinner. Because who wants to eat 2 > > hour old baguettes. Probably the > > only thing in their pantry is > > cigarettes and wine. But at least > > if these are the end times, they > > have cigarettes and wine while they > > watch the end. Who cares about Spam > > and Vienna sausages. > > > > *From:*AF > > mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com > > <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On > > Behalf Of *Adam Moffett > > *Sent:* Monday, March 2, 2020 6:25 AM > > *To:* af@af.afmug.com > > <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu > > > > You need the disaster to occur to > > justify all your preparation. Some > > part of you is rooting for it. > > > > Just a hypothesis. > > > > On 3/1/2020 10:15 PM, Steve Jones > wrote: > > > > i never understood it, on the > > right, we tend to be the most > > prepared. most of the die hard > > preppers are right minded. we > > tend to be the most capable of > > utilizing primal tools and > > food/water sources. if it goes > > boogity, we have the best > > firepower and ammunition and > > training. so i never understood > > why people on the right get very > > nervous about these things. a > > lot like devout christians > > worying about end times and > rapture. > > > > On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 8:09 PM > > Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com > > <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote: > > > > My oldest home - again son > > is much worse than you > > guys. He is very alt right > > too. He might be Alex > > Jones... I have never seen > > them both at the same place > > at the same time. He is > > certain Kung flu is gonna > > get us all. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Mar 1, 2020, at 6:14 > > PM, Mark - Myakka > > Technologies > > <m...@mailmt.com > > <mailto:m...@mailmt.com>> > wrote: > > > > On a side note. Thanks > > for letting me rant and > > rave here. Can't do it > > at home, wife just rolls > > eyes and tells me I'm a > > grumpy old man. Chuck, I > > know you are saving me a > > few $ in therapy. So, > > Thank You. > > > > > > -- > > Best regards, > > Mark > > mailto:m...@mailmt.com > > <mailto:m...@mailmt.com> > > > > Myakka Technologies, Inc. > > www.Myakka.com > > <http://www.Myakka.com> > > > > ------ > > > > Sunday, March 1, 2020, > > 7:47:53 PM, you wrote: > > > > > > > > > > OK, maybe this is > > hysterical reporting > > (it’s from Washington > > Post after all), but > > sounds kind of science-y. > > > > The novel coronavirus > > has probably been > > spreading undetected for > > about six weeks in > > Washington state, where > > the first U.S. death was > > reported this weekend. A > > genetic analysis > > suggests that the cases > > are linked through > > community transmission > > and that this has been > > going on for weeks, with > > hundreds of infections > > likely in the state. > > > > > > *From:* AF > > <af-boun...@af.afmug.com > > <mailto: > af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> > > *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof > > *Sent:* Sunday, March 1, > > 2020 6:21 PM > > *To:* 'AnimalFarm > > Microwave Users Group' > > <af@af.afmug.com > > <mailto:af@af.afmug.com > >> > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] > > OT: Corona-fu > > > > Must be a Florida thing, > > or a Walmart thing. I > > have not seen news > > reports anything close > > to “we are all going to > > die”. > > > > And I just stopped at > > the grocery store, no > > signs at all of people > > buying up all the Lysol > > and Purell. I did buy a > > couple of the pump > > bottles of foaming hand > > soap we like, but the > > shelf was full. News > > reports have said wash > > your hands and that it’s > > good advice for seasonal > > flu as well, I don’t > > think that’s doomsday > > advice. > > > > I have not checked > > Walmart, maybe things > > are all crazy there (as > > usual). Actually I have > > to admit that I recently > > discovered the steaks > > from Walmart are > > actually pretty good, > > they were branded Tyson > > Fresh Meats. > > > > *From:* AF > > <af-boun...@af.afmug.com > > <mailto: > af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> > > *On Behalf Of *Mark - > > Myakka Technologies > > *Sent:* Sunday, March 1, > > 2020 5:53 PM > > *To:* AnimalFarm > > Microwave Users Group > > <af@af.afmug.com > > <mailto:af@af.afmug.com > >> > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] > > OT: Corona-fu > > > > There are only a few > > things we know for sure. > > > > 1. It is already in the > US > > 2. More people in the US > > will get it > > 3. More people in the US > > will die. > > > > Anything other than this > > is pure speculation at > > this point. We don't > > know anything about this > > virus. Most everything > > I hear or read about > > this virus starts off > > with the equivalent of > > "WE ARE ALL GOING TO > > DIE". But if you bother > > to listen or read the > > article, it always has > > "may" or "some > > experts". The current > > official incubation > > period is 2-14 days, but > > hey lets just report 14 > > days and base all our > > models on this and > > report it as the most > > likely scenario. We > > don't know how long it > > lives on surfaces. We > > don't know how it reacts > > to UV light. We don't > > know how it will do in > > warm/humid conditions. > > > > My opinion (just as > > valid as anyone > > else's), This virus has > > been in the states > > before the first > > reported case. People > > have had it and > > recovered thinking it > > was just the flu. Not > > everyone exposed is > > going to get it. Not > > everyone who gets it is > > going to need to be > > hospitalized. Not > > everyone who gets > > hospitalized will die. > > > > The media once again is > > doing us a huge > > dis-service. They are > > hyping this thing way > > out of proportion. Was > > at Wal-mart yesterday. > > Every can of Lysol or > > Lysol type of product > > was gone. Every package > > of disinfectant wipes > > were gone. Every bottle > > of any sized hand > > sanitizer, gone. > > Crazy. The closest > > reported "maybe" case is > > over 1300 miles away. > > God forbid we get a > > reported case in > > Florida, what will > > happen then? Going to > > start burning and > looting? > > > > > > -- > > Best regards, > > Mark > > mailto:m...@mailmt.com > > <mailto:m...@mailmt.com> > > > > Myakka Technologies, Inc. > > www.Myakka.com > > <http://www.Myakka.com> > > > > ------ > > > > Sunday, March 1, 2020, > > 3:55:47 PM, you wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I am not a doctor. I > > don't even play one on > > TV or any podcasts or > > blogs. I do pay > > attention to as much > > scientifically-based > > information I can find > > though. > > This is a pretty good > > synopsis on our current > > knowledge without any > spin: > > > https://www.sciencenews.org/article/what-new-phase-coronavirus-outbreak-united-states-means-you > > > > bp > > > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > > > On 2/10/2020 8:53 AM, > > Ken Hohhof wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nazis are socialists. > > Bernie is a socialist. > > Therefore Bernie is a > > Nazi. So the Internet > says. > > > > *From:*AF > > mailto: > af-boun...@af.afmug.com > > <mailto: > af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > > *On Behalf Of *Steve > Jones > > *Sent:* Monday, February > > 10, 2020 10:48 AM > > *To:* AnimalFarm > > Microwave Users Group > > mailto:af@af.afmug.com > > <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] > > OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT > > stock) > > > > thats the secret, > > remember russia shafted > > the nazis last time... > > russia is in asia, so > > russians are asians. > > Taking them out of the > > running too.... Weve > > said too much > > > > On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at > > 10:45 AM Adam Moffett > > <dmmoff...@gmail.com > > <mailto: > dmmoff...@gmail.com>> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nazis also hate > > Communists. It all fits. > > > > On 2/10/2020 11:41 AM, > > Steve Jones wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Im suprised that hasnt > > gotten traction. This is > > obviously genetically > > designed to target > > Asians. The proof is > > that 99% of infections > > are asians. Obviously > > this is the resurgence > > of the Nazi party trying > > to eliminate a majority > > of the population so > > they can initiate > > another run at global > > domination. My neighbors > > mom, Karen told me that > > her friend, carols > > husband Brad told her > > that he heard that this > > is what brexit was all > > about. Germany and Great > > Britian are forming an > > alliance now. Its all > > hush hush, but there is > > a shadow government of > > guess what... Nazis. > > > > On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at > > 10:33 AM Adam Moffett > > <dmmoff...@gmail.com > > <mailto: > dmmoff...@gmail.com>> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > You mean.....Nazi's > > created Coronavirus? > > > > On 2/10/2020 11:30 AM, > > Bill Prince wrote: > > > I'm waiting for > Godwin... > > > > > > > > > bp > > > > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > > > > > On 2/10/2020 8:26 AM, > > Adam Moffett wrote: > > >> The thing driving me > nuts right now is that > > literally everything is a > > >> "conspiracy". > > >> > > >> Sometimes stuff > happens, nobody > > did it on purpose, and > > nobody has the > > >> whole picture of what > happened until more > > time passes. In the > interim > > >> there's a lot of > conflicting information > > going around. People > latch > > >> onto early bits of > information that turn > > out to be wrong and they > > >> won't let go of them. > > >> > > >> Coronavirus was > created by the Chinese > > to distract press from > > Hong Kong > > >> > > >> Coronavirus was > created by the USA > > to defeat China in a > > trade war > > >> > > >> Coronavirus was > created by Budweiser > > to discredit Mexican > > Lager (I > > >> mean that one's > obviously a joke.....right?) > > >> > > >> Coronavirus will kill > us > > all and we must all > > stock our survival > bunkers. > > >> > > >> China is hiding all > the information > > about Coronavirus. > > Really? Or > > >> maybe they just don't > have a live real-time > > omniscient feed of all > > >> information so > they're reporting what they think is true > > at the time > > >> it's said, or maybe > > rumors on Facebook > > aren't all true. > > >> > > >> See Hanlon's Razor > and Occam's Razor. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> On 2/10/2020 11:03 AM, > > Bill Prince wrote: > > >>> Starting a new > thread to make this discussion off > > topic. > > >>> > > >>> I had my flu shot > BTW. No fever here. > > >>> > > >>> Still zero reported > deaths in the > > US, and only about a > > dozen actual > > >>> infections. I am > still thinking this is > > not a big deal. Novel > > >>> Coronavirus appears > to be more infectious than SARS, > > but not > > >>> particularly deadly. > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com > > <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> > > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com > > <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> > > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com > > <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> > > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com > > <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> > > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> > > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> > > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> > > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> > > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > -- > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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