Did anyone catch this yesterday. https://www.who.int/dg/speeches/detail/who-director-general-s-opening-remarks-at-the-media-briefing-on-covid-19---3-march-2020
"But as we get more data, we are understanding this virus, and the disease it causes, more and more. This virus is not SARS, it’s not MERS, and it’s not influenza. It is a unique virus with unique characteristics. Both COVID-19 and influenza cause respiratory disease and spread the same way, via small droplets of fluid from the nose and mouth of someone who is sick. However, there are some important differences between COVID-19 and influenza. First, COVID-19 does not transmit as efficiently as influenza, from the data we have so far. With influenza, people who are infected but not yet sick are major drivers of transmission, which does not appear to be the case for COVID-19. Evidence from China is that only 1% of reported cases do not have symptoms, and most of those cases develop symptoms within 2 days. Some countries are looking for cases of COVID-19 using surveillance systems for influenza and other respiratory diseases." -- Best regards, Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.Myakka.com ------ Wednesday, March 4, 2020, 10:19:05 AM, you wrote: MH> There are now two version of the virus: MH> S-Cov and L-Cov. MH> L-Cov is what is believed to have gone through Wuhan and is extremely fatal. MH> S-Cov is less fatal. MH> What is here in the U.S. is unknown at this point. MH> On 3/4/20 10:17 AM, castarritt . wrote: >> I see a lot of people in other forums that seem to think the virus won't >> be as dangerous in the US because 'murica, but looking my average fellow >> Americans and our rate of comorbidities, I'm not so sure about that. >> Also, this: >> >> https://starecat.com/content/wp-content/uploads/transporting-an-infected-person-china-italy-usa-comparison-corona-virus.jpg >> >> On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 2:29 AM Forrest Christian (List Account) >> <li...@packetflux.com <mailto:li...@packetflux.com>> wrote: >> >> This is not good news: >> >> >> https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/03/who-says-coronavirus-death-rate-is-3point4percent-globally-higher-than-previously-thought.html >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 3, 2020 at 8:56 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com >> <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote: >> >> Wow, that is sad. Really brings the whole situation home. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Bill Prince >> Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2020 7:12 PM >> To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu >> >> >> This is one I didn't expect. My nephew's father just came back >> from a >> cruise and he's now in a hospital in Sacramento. We've been told >> he has >> COVID-19, and he is not expected to survive. He is in his mid 70s. >> >> >> bp >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >> >> On 3/2/2020 9:56 AM, Robert Andrews wrote: >> > Everyone wears them in China ( hence the deaths going down ) >> to prevent >> > you from touching mouth or nose and goggles for eyes, if in >> public. If you >> > want to get the R0 (R naught) below two and get ahead of >> this you _must_ >> > stop people from passing. Part of the reason not to touch >> is also to >> > keep people from picking it up on surfaces as there is a >> pretty good body >> > of evidence that it lasts multiple days on paper and plastic >> and 1-2 days >> > on everything else. YES UV helps but this is a much tougher >> little bugger >> > than the common flu.. >> > >> > On 03/02/2020 09:27 AM, Bill Prince wrote: >> >> The advice is that masks don't really protect you. OTOH, >> they say if you >> >> ARE infected that you should wear a mask. The idea is that >> masks don't >> >> really keep the virus out, but they can help in keeping the >> virus in. >> >> >> >> >> >> bp >> >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >> >> >> >> On 3/2/2020 9:14 AM, Steven Kenney wrote: >> >>> Surgeon General tells people not to buy masks. >> >>> >> >>> Uhh hello? The richest most "ready" country in the world >> doesn't have a >> >>> 6 month supply of masks in storage ready for such an >> event? What the >> >>> heck? >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Steven Kenney >> >>> Network Operations Manager >> >>> WaveDirect Telecommunications >> >>> http://www.wavedirect.net >> >>> (519)737-WAVE (9283) >> >>> >> >>> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >>> >> >>> *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> >> >>> *To: *"af" <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> >> >>> *Sent: *Monday, March 2, 2020 11:00:25 AM >> >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu >> >>> >> >>> Maybe they can send it to us. Today for the first time I >> heard the term >> >>> “surge capacity” applied to hospital beds. Person was >> saying US >> >>> healthcare industry has made hospitals efficient same way >> as airlines, >> >>> aim for zero empty beds, with the result that there’s not >> much surge >> >>> capacity. Let’s hope somebody’s looking at ways to open up >> more >> >>> facilities in areas where outbreaks happen. The Chinese >> weren’t stupid >> >>> with their modular approach to quickly creating a field >> hospital. >> >>> Reminds me of MASH. Time for a bug out! >> >>> >> >>> I did a quick Google search for “hospital surge capacity” >> and the first >> >>> page of results were mostly studies after Katrina. A >> hurricane is worse >> >>> because it closes down hospitals and pharmacies, >> eliminating capacity. >> >>> With the coronavirus what I suspect we need to guard >> against is >> >>> infecting all the hospital staff and first responders so >> they get >> >>> quarantined. This appears to be happening with that >> nursing home in >> >>> Kirkland, Washington. 25 firefighters are now quarantined >> as a >> >>> precaution because they had been to that facility. >> >>> >> >>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com >> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones >> >>> *Sent:* Monday, March 2, 2020 8:44 AM >> >>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com >> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> >> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu >> >>> >> >>> Chinas closing their first hospital they built since they >> dont have >> >>> enough patients >> >>> >> >>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020, 8:42 AM Bill Prince >> <part15...@gmail.com <mailto:part15...@gmail.com> >> >>> <mailto:part15...@gmail.com <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>>> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Perish the thought! 3-hour-old baguettes! I would >> rather die from >> >>> COVID-19 before eating an old baguette! >> >>> >> >>> If I smoke another cigarette, I can aggravate my COPD >> and hasten >> >>> the end. >> >>> >> >>> bp >> >>> >> >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On 3/2/2020 5:57 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Well, the French are screwed, they don’t even stock >> food for >> >>> tonight’s dinner. Because who wants to eat 2 hour old >> >>> baguettes. Probably the only thing in their pantry is >> >>> cigarettes and wine. But at least if these are the >> end times, >> >>> they have cigarettes and wine while they watch the >> end. Who >> >>> cares about Spam and Vienna sausages. >> >>> >> >>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com >> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> >> >>> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com >> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett >> >>> *Sent:* Monday, March 2, 2020 6:25 AM >> >>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> >> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu >> >>> >> >>> You need the disaster to occur to justify all your >> >>> preparation. Some part of you is rooting for it. >> >>> >> >>> Just a hypothesis. >> >>> >> >>> On 3/1/2020 10:15 PM, Steve Jones wrote: >> >>> >> >>> i never understood it, on the right, we tend to >> be the >> >>> most prepared. most of the die hard preppers >> are right >> >>> minded. we tend to be the most capable of >> utilizing primal >> >>> tools and food/water sources. if it goes >> boogity, we have >> >>> the best firepower and ammunition and training. >> so i never >> >>> understood why people on the right get very >> nervous about >> >>> these things. a lot like devout christians >> worying about >> >>> end times and rapture. >> >>> >> >>> On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 8:09 PM Chuck McCown >> >>> <ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> >> <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> My oldest home - again son is much worse >> than you >> >>> guys. He is very alt right too. He might >> be Alex >> >>> Jones... I have never seen them both at the >> same place >> >>> at the same time. He is certain Kung flu >> is gonna get >> >>> us all. >> >>> >> >>> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> >> >>> On Mar 1, 2020, at 6:14 PM, Mark - Myakka >> >>> Technologies <m...@mailmt.com >> <mailto:m...@mailmt.com> >> >>> <mailto:m...@mailmt.com >> <mailto:m...@mailmt.com>>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> On a side note. Thanks for letting me >> rant and >> >>> rave here. Can't do it at home, wife >> just rolls >> >>> eyes and tells me I'm a grumpy old man. >> Chuck, I >> >>> know you are saving me a few $ in >> therapy. So, >> >>> Thank You. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Best regards, >> >>> Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com >> <mailto:m...@mailmt.com> >> >>> >> >>> Myakka Technologies, Inc. >> >>> www.Myakka.com <http://www.Myakka.com> <http://www.Myakka.com> >> >>> >> >>> ------ >> >>> >> >>> Sunday, March 1, 2020, 7:47:53 PM, you >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> OK, maybe this is hysterical reporting >> (it’s from >> >>> Washington Post after all), but sounds >> kind of >> >>> science-y. >> >>> >> >>> The novel coronavirus has probably been >> spreading >> >>> undetected for about six weeks in >> Washington >> >>> state, where the first U.S. death was >> reported >> >>> this weekend. A genetic analysis >> suggests that the >> >>> cases are linked through community >> transmission >> >>> and that this has been going on for >> weeks, with >> >>> hundreds of infections likely in the state. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> *From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com >> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> >> >>> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com >> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>>> *On Behalf Of >> >>> *Ken Hohhof >> >>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 1, 2020 6:21 PM >> >>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' >> >>> <af@af.afmug.com >> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com >> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>> >> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu >> >>> >> >>> Must be a Florida thing, or a Walmart >> thing. I >> >>> have not seen news reports anything >> close to “we >> >>> are all going to die”. >> >>> >> >>> And I just stopped at the grocery >> store, no signs >> >>> at all of people buying up all the >> Lysol and >> >>> Purell. I did buy a couple of the pump >> bottles of >> >>> foaming hand soap we like, but the >> shelf was >> >>> full. News reports have said wash your >> hands and >> >>> that it’s good advice for seasonal flu >> as well, I >> >>> don’t think that’s doomsday advice. >> >>> >> >>> I have not checked Walmart, maybe >> things are all >> >>> crazy there (as usual). Actually I >> have to admit >> >>> that I recently discovered the steaks >> from Walmart >> >>> are actually pretty good, they were >> branded Tyson >> >>> Fresh Meats. >> >>> >> >>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com >> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> >> >>> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com >> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>>> *On Behalf Of >> >>> *Mark - Myakka Technologies >> >>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 1, 2020 5:53 PM >> >>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> >>> <af@af.afmug.com >> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com >> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>> >> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu >> >>> >> >>> There are only a few things we know for >> sure. >> >>> >> >>> 1. It is already in the US >> >>> 2. More people in the US will get it >> >>> 3. More people in the US will die. >> >>> >> >>> Anything other than this is pure >> speculation at >> >>> this point. We don't know anything >> about this >> >>> virus. Most everything I hear or read >> about this >> >>> virus starts off with the equivalent of >> "WE ARE >> >>> ALL GOING TO DIE". But if you bother to >> listen or >> >>> read the article, it always has "may" >> or "some >> >>> experts". The current official >> incubation period >> >>> is 2-14 days, but hey lets just report >> 14 days and >> >>> base all our models on this and report >> it as the >> >>> most likely scenario. We don't know >> how long it >> >>> lives on surfaces. We don't know how it >> reacts to >> >>> UV light. We don't know how it will do in >> >>> warm/humid conditions. >> >>> >> >>> My opinion (just as valid as anyone >> else's), This >> >>> virus has been in the states before the >> first >> >>> reported case. People have had it and >> recovered >> >>> thinking it was just the flu. Not >> everyone exposed >> >>> is going to get it. Not everyone who >> gets it is >> >>> going to need to be hospitalized. Not >> everyone >> >>> who gets hospitalized will die. >> >>> >> >>> The media once again is doing us a huge >> >>> dis-service. They are hyping this thing >> way out >> >>> of proportion. Was at Wal-mart >> yesterday. Every >> >>> can of Lysol or Lysol type of product >> was gone. >> >>> Every package of disinfectant wipes were gone. Every bottle >> of any sized >> >>> hand sanitizer, gone. Crazy. The closest reported "maybe" >> case is over >> >>> 1300 miles away. God forbid we get a >> reported >> >>> case in Florida, what will happen then? >> Going to >> >>> start burning and looting? >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Best regards, >> >>> Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com >> <mailto:m...@mailmt.com> >> >>> >> >>> Myakka Technologies, Inc. >> >>> www.Myakka.com <http://www.Myakka.com> <http://www.Myakka.com> >> >>> >> >>> ------ >> >>> >> >>> Sunday, March 1, 2020, 3:55:47 PM, you >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> I am not a doctor. I don't even play >> one on TV or >> >>> any podcasts or blogs. I do pay >> attention to as >> >>> much scientifically-based information I >> can find >> >>> though. >> >>> This is a pretty good synopsis on our >> current >> >>> knowledge without any spin: >> >>> >> >> https://www.sciencenews.org/article/what-new-phase-coronavirus-outbreak-united-states-means-you >> >>> >> >>> bp >> >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >> >>> >> >>> On 2/10/2020 8:53 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Nazis are socialists. Bernie is a >> socialist. >> >>> Therefore Bernie is a Nazi. So the Internet says. >> >>> >> >>> *From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com >> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> >> >>> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com >> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of >> >>> *Steve Jones >> >>> *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2020 10:48 AM >> >>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> >>> <af@af.afmug.com >> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com >> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> >> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu >> (was UBNT >> >>> stock) >> >>> >> >>> thats the secret, remember russia >> shafted the >> >>> nazis last time... russia is in asia, >> so russians >> >>> are asians. Taking them out of the >> running too.... >> >>> Weve said too much >> >>> >> >>> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:45 AM Adam >> Moffett >> >>> <dmmoff...@gmail.com >> <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com >> <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>>> >> >>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Nazis also hate Communists. It all fits. >> >>> >> >>> On 2/10/2020 11:41 AM, Steve Jones wrote: >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Im suprised that hasnt gotten traction. >> This is >> >>> obviously genetically designed to >> target Asians. >> >>> The proof is that 99% of infections are >> asians. >> >>> Obviously this is the resurgence of the >> Nazi party >> >>> trying to eliminate a majority of the >> population >> >>> so they can initiate another run at global >> >>> domination. My neighbors mom, Karen >> told me that >> >>> her friend, carols husband Brad told >> her that he >> >>> heard that this is what brexit was all >> about. >> >>> Germany and Great Britian are forming >> an alliance >> >>> now. Its all hush hush, but there is a >> shadow >> >>> government of guess what... Nazis. >> >>> >> >>> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:33 AM Adam >> Moffett >> >>> <dmmoff...@gmail.com >> <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com >> <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>>> >> >>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> You mean.....Nazi's created Coronavirus? >> >>> >> >>> On 2/10/2020 11:30 AM, Bill Prince wrote: >> >>> > I'm waiting for Godwin... >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > bp >> >>> > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >> >>> > >> >>> > On 2/10/2020 8:26 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: >> >>> >> The thing driving me nuts right now >> is that >> >>> literally everything is a >> >>> >> "conspiracy". >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Sometimes stuff happens, nobody did >> it on >> >>> purpose, and nobody has the >> >>> >> whole picture of what happened until >> more time >> >>> passes. In the interim >> >>> >> there's a lot of conflicting >> information going >> >>> around. People latch >> >>> >> onto early bits of information that >> turn out to >> >>> be wrong and they >> >>> >> won't let go of them. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Coronavirus was created by the >> Chinese to >> >>> distract press from Hong Kong >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Coronavirus was created by the USA >> to defeat >> >>> China in a trade war >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Coronavirus was created by Budweiser to >> >>> discredit Mexican Lager (I >> >>> >> mean that one's obviously a >> joke.....right?) >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Coronavirus will kill us all and we >> must all >> >>> stock our survival bunkers. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> China is hiding all the information >> about >> >>> Coronavirus. Really? Or >> >>> >> maybe they just don't have a live >> real-time >> >>> omniscient feed of all >> >>> >> information so they're reporting >> what they >> >>> think is true at the time >> >>> >> it's said, or maybe rumors on >> Facebook aren't >> >>> all true. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> See Hanlon's Razor and Occam's Razor. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> On 2/10/2020 11:03 AM, Bill Prince >> wrote: >> >>> >>> Starting a new thread to make this >> discussion >> >>> off topic. >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> I had my flu shot BTW. No fever here. >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> Still zero reported deaths in the >> US, and only >> >>> about a dozen actual >> >>> >>> infections. I am still thinking >> this is not a >> >>> big deal. Novel >> >>> >>> Coronavirus appears to be more >> infectious than >> >>> SARS, but not >> >>> >>> particularly deadly. >> >>> >>> >> >>> >> >> >>> > >> >>> >> >>> -- AF mailing list >> >>> AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> >> <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com>> >> >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >>> >> >>> -- AF mailing list >> >>> AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> >> <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com>> >> >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >>> >> >>> -- AF mailing list >> >>> AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> >> <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com>> >> >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >>> >> >>> -- AF mailing list >> >>> AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> >> <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com>> >> >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >>> >> >>> -- AF mailing list >> >>> AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> >> <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com>> >> >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> AF mailing list >> >>> AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> >> >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> >> >> -- >> - Forrest >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
