tl:dr,  WHO did a pretty good job characterizing it in China...


https://www.reddit.com/r/China_Flu/comments/fbt49e/the_who_sent_25_international_experts_to_china/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb&fbclid=IwAR200tfVJTj399ew-ebr4m9hNnrJ4XUt37ga6b-lPQyRsbIWndMS3PMMjsw&_branch_match_id=745183492132993440

On 3/9/20 2:48 PM, James Howard wrote:

That’s why we need a one world government.  Efficiency should be able to be improved to the point they can engineer a new pandemic every 6 months then.

*From:*AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
*Sent:* Monday, March 9, 2020 3:02 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

I dont think you read my statement. The reason we have some new "pandemic" every 2 or so years is thats about how long it takes for the government to engineer the new virus

On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 2:55 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    I'm not. Anthony Fauci stated that they can get a vaccine
    prototyped in a few months, but it would take at least a year, and
    maybe up to two before it could be administered to the general
    public. By that time, we will be on the great-great-great (insert
    however many greats you would like) grandchildren of the current
    coronavirus.

    bp

    <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

    On 3/9/2020 12:40 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

        Guys, youre way over estimating the speed at which the
        government is able to engineer new variants of each virus

        On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 2:40 PM Bill Prince
        <part15...@gmail.com <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:

            That's different from the information I had been given.
            I'd heard the issue with the coronavirus is that it
            mutates very rapidly, so that a vaccine for today's
            coronavirus will be obsolete after the next mutation or
            two. One of the reasons the common cold still has not got
            a vaccine; too many targets.

            bp

            <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

            On 3/9/2020 12:12 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

                I was just reading that with coronaviruses, unlike
                rhinoviruses, immunity only lasts 1-2 years and that
                with the “common cold” people get the same strain
                again sometimes within a year.

                So assuming they develop a vaccine, I guess we’ll have
                to get our “flu shots” every year in the future.

                *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com>
                <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of
                *ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
                *Sent:* Monday, March 9, 2020 1:28 PM
                *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
                <af@af.afmug.com> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
                *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

                She has built a nuclear weapon, or is studying
                Sanskrit or has converted to Hinduism.

                Knowing you, I would bet on the first one.

                *From:*Steve Jones

                *Sent:*Monday, March 9, 2020 10:52 AM

                *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

                *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

                My 11yr old daughter has been having the mild symptoms
                for 2 months now, i bet shes a carrier since all the
                other tests, even mono came back negative... she may
                even be patient zero. Last night she came to me and
                said "Daddy, I love you, but I am become death,
                destroyer of worlds" I dont know what that means, but
                im taking her lab down tonite

                On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 11:45 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com
                <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

                    I doubt most would think to go get a test if they
                    had the mild symptoms that I have been reading about.

                    *From:*Mark - Myakka Technologies

                    *Sent:*Monday, March 9, 2020 10:36 AM

                    *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

                    *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

                    Testing should ramp up.  CDC test kits are not the
                    only test in town.  As of today both Labcorp and
                    Qwest Diagnostics have their own testing
                    capabilities. This means any doctor can now do a
                    swab and send it off to either of these labs just
                    like any other test they do.  There should be no
                    reason for no testing now.

                    
https://newsroom.questdiagnostics.com/2020-03-05-Quest-Diagnostics-to-Launch-Coronavirus-Disease-2019-COVID-19-Test

                    
https://www.labcorp.com/information-labcorp-about-coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19


                    --
                    Best regards,
                    Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com

                    Myakka Technologies, Inc.
                    www.Myakka.com <http://www.Myakka.com>

                    ------

                    Monday, March 9, 2020, 12:24:15 PM, you wrote:


                        

                    There has not really been any testing at all in
                    the US. Total tests to date in the US is fewer
                    than 5000. By contrast South Korea is doing 10,000
                    per day. The test kits are only starting to be
                    distributed in the US. They might have substantial
                    numbers of kits sometime next week.

                    bp
                    <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

                    On 3/9/2020 9:12 AM, Steve Jones wrote:


                        

                    10

                    There has been no confirmation outside the media
                    conjecture that asymptomatic people can spread it.
                    Im curious, and too lazy to look, what type of
                    testing was done on them, was it a nasal swab, or
                    a blood test. A nasal swab just indicates
                    exposure. Remember the DOG INFECTED WITH CORONA
                    VIRUS!!! headline a couple weeks ago? Yeah, it
                    died down when it was pointed out that the dog
                    didnt test positive, the dog never had it, it was
                    just present in the swab as an environmental
                    contaminate. If a swab of a door handle shows it
                    present, we dont say the door handle has it,
                    because it doesnt, its simply on the door handle

                    On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 10:17 AM Mathew Howard
                    <mhoward...@gmail.com
                    <mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote:


                        

                    I read that half of the people on the Diamond
                    Princess cruise ship that tested positive for the
                    virus didn't have symptoms... if that's true, and
                    those people are able to spread it, there are
                    almost certainly a LOT of people running around
                    with it. That also means that the death rate is
                    probably way, way lower than we've been made to
                    believe.

                    On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 10:13 AM Steve Jones
                    <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
                    <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:


                        

                    Id agree there, of the 1000 probably 250 didnt
                    even know they were sick, of that remaining 750
                    probably 650 thought they had the flu or a cold.
                    of the remaining 100, most of them were elderly or
                    otherwise infirm and standard outcomes would
                    apply. In the mean time, in that area probably
                    10,000 people got the flu, and 100 of them died

                    On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 10:01 AM Bill Prince
                    <part15...@gmail.com <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>>
                    wrote:


                        

                    Interesting tidbit from the NYT this morning:

                    /Adam Kucharski, who studies the math behind
                    outbreaks for the London School of Hygiene and
                    Tropical Medicine, recently talked to The Times
                    about how people should look at the coronavirus data.
                    One signal Dr. Kucharski looks for is when the
                    first case in an area is a death: “That suggests
                    you had a lot of community transmission already,”
                    he said.
                    “Suppose the fatality rate for cases is about 1
                    percent, which is plausible,” he explained. “If
                    you’ve got a death, then that person probably
                    became ill about three weeks ago. That means you
                    probably had about 100 cases three weeks ago, in
                    reality.”
                    “In that subsequent three weeks,” he added, “that
                    number could well have doubled, then doubled, then
                    doubled again. So you’re currently looking at 500
                    cases, maybe 1,000 cases.”
                    /My corollary on the above is that if we have that
                    many cases in a community, then a lot of people
                    are running around with no clue that they have
                    been infected.
                    bp
                    <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>


                    On 3/9/2020 6:16 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:


                        

                    We have moved from containment to community
                    mitigation, where the goal is to flatten the curve
                    and avoid overloading the healthcare system, and
                    wait for a vaccine (no, not imminent). Messaging
                    has not quite caught up with this reality, but if
                    you listen to Dr. Anthony Fauci you can figure it out.

                    Those of you going to WISPAmerica, stay safe. Wash
                    your hands, and use the hand sanitizer that I
                    assume will be everywhere. Maybe take a thermometer.

                    And Steve, I’m shocked, shocked to hear that your
                    town has Amtrak. Didn’t you just get indoor
                    plumbing last year?


                    *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com *On
                    Behalf Of *Steve Jones
                    *Sent:* Monday, March 9, 2020 7:40 AM
                    *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
                    mailto:af@af.afmug.com
                    *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

                    Well, my worst nightmare has hit. Turns out a lady
                    from here in town was in the car behind this lady
                    and we "exposed"
                    So that equates to "its here in town now"
                    I already talked to the OB about this. The wifes
                    having the baby cut from her gut on the 18th which
                    has a 3 day recovery in thos hospital. In the mean
                    time everybody and their brother is going to be
                    comimg out to the hospital because theyre certain
                    they have the deaths. Theyre bringing every germ
                    known to man into one place. Hospitals are already
                    infection centers, dirty filthy cesspools of disease.
                    The baby technically only has to be there 24
                    hours, and im taking it home. Wifes on her own at
                    the death center. Herpes will be riding bareback
                    on cold viruses after inbreeding with mersa and
                    riding through a puddle of c. Diff.

                    On Mon, Mar 9, 2020, 6:46 AM Forrest Christian
                    (List Account) <li...@packetflux.com
                    <mailto:li...@packetflux.com>> wrote:


                        

                    Let me see If I can agree with what I think you're
                    saying:

                    1) Currently we're pre-selecting for people who
                    are in a hospital with something looking like nCov
                    and which got tested. We don't currently know how
                    many people have it but didn't get tested and as
                    such isn't counted as an infected person.   As we
                    improve our testing ability, we'll find more cases
                    which aren't hospitalization (and possible
                    subsequent death) cases, pushing the rate lower.

                    2) Because we are testing more we'll also be able
                    to tell that some of the cases that we aren't
                    attributing to nCov are actually nCov cases,
                    pushing the rate higher.

                    Does that describe what you're saying?



                    On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 5:09 AM Matt Hoppes
                    <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
                    <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote:


                        

                    More people being tested means two things:

                    1) the death rate goes way down
                    2) the death rate goes way up, because we
                    currently have folks dying of pneumonia that
                    wasn’t the flu.

                    > On Mar 8, 2020, at 11:30 PM, Mark - Myakka
                    Technologies <m...@mailmt.com
                    <mailto:m...@mailmt.com>> wrote:
                    >
                    > I'm going  to Disney  World this coming Friday. 
                    Went into town this
                    > weekend, stopped  by 5-6  stores including lunch
                    out.  I have an
                    > employee going on a cruise next week.
                    >
                    > We have had two confirmed cases in our county.
                    >
                    > It is what it is, I'm not going to hide under a
                    rock.  Let's keep this
                    > in perspective. Currently the total infection
                    rate per 1 million in
                    > the  US is  1.6.   S. Korea has the highest
                    infection rate at 144 per
                    > million. That infection rate  not death rate.
                    Death rate is even
                    > lower.
                    >
                    > If you are under 50 years old, your death
                    chances are under 0.5%.
                    >
                    > It  is going to go up.  Now that both Quest Labs
                    and Labcorp are both
                    > doing testing, more  people will  get tested. 
                    More people getting
                    > tested, means more people being counted as a case.
                    >
                    > --
                    > Best regards,
                    > Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com <mailto:m...@mailmt.com>
                    >
                    > Myakka Technologies, Inc.
                    > www.Myakka.com <http://www.Myakka.com>
                    >
                    > ------
                    >
                    > Sunday, March 8, 2020, 9:51:23 PM, you wrote:
                    >
                    > MH> You’re really making light of this serious
                    situation aren’t you?
                    >
                    >>> On Mar 8, 2020, at 9:26 PM, Steve Jones
                    <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
                    <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
                    >>>
                    >>> --000000000000216fbc05a061e421
                    >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
                    >>>
                    >>> welp, guys, was nice knowing you. An amtrak
                    train had apparently stopped in
                    >>> my town with an infected passenger. Thats the
                    end of that. Already took the
                    >>> family out to the garden and put them down,
                    now I just wait for sweet death.
                    >>>
                    >>>> On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 3:53 PM James Howard
                    <ja...@litewire.net <mailto:ja...@litewire.net>>
                    wrote:
                    >>>>
                    >>>> Might want to switch to peeing on them to
                    avoid spreading anything.
                    >>>> According to the news stories droplets of
                    saliva and rubbing your eyes are
                    >>>> the ways it gets spread.  Urine might give
                    you even more dominance than
                    >>>> spit anyway.
                    >>>>
                    >>>>
                    >>>>
                    >>>> *From:* A
                    >
                    >
                    > --
                    > AF mailing list
                    > AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com>
                    > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

-- AF mailing list
                    AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com>
                    http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com



-- - Forrest -- AF mailing list
                    AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com>
                    http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

-- AF mailing list
                    AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com>
                    http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

-- AF mailing list
                    AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com>
                    http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

-- AF mailing list
                    AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com>
                    http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

                    
------------------------------------------------------------------------

-- AF mailing list
                    AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com>
                    http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

-- AF mailing list
                    AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com>
                    http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

                
------------------------------------------------------------------------

-- AF mailing list
                AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com>
                http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com



-- AF mailing list
            AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com>
            http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com



-- AF mailing list
    AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com>
    http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

------------------------------------------------------------------------

*Total Control Panel*

        

Login <https://asp.reflexion.net/login?domain=litewire.net>

To: ja...@litewire.net <https://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=242260993&domain=litewire.net>

From: af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>

        

/You received this message because the domain afmug.com is on your allow list./



-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Reply via email to