Some of the tickets we are getting I think are just longstanding WiFi issues.  
People are stupid and lazy and the latest situation is just shining a light on 
their home network deficiencies, possibly due to higher usage or more people 
and devices in the house.

All the time I see people with every single device in the house connected via 
WiFi, even a TV 2 feet from the router.  And the satellite TV guy of course 
doesn't run an Ethernet cable to the MOCA device, he connects to their WiFi.  
Then the people buy a "range extender" and set it right next to our managed 
router.  When that makes things worse, they buy a couple more range extenders.  
Then they buy a bunch of battery operated WiFi cameras and stick them all over 
the outside of their house with -90 WiFi signals.  And even with a dual band 
router, they put all the devices on one band, rather than at least dedicating 
2.4 GHz to the cameras with the crappy signal.

If there's a way to make their home network suck, they'll find it.  Then they 
complain their Internet is slow.  Except in times of stress like now, it's 
"VERY slow".


-----Original Message-----
From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Craig House
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2020 9:24 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Covid19 bandwidth

We haven’t seen an ANUS. (Average network usage statistics) this bad in 10 
years. To quote an old friends episode

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> On Mar 19, 2020, at 09:18, Christopher Tyler <ch...@totalhighspeed.net> wrote:
> 
> We're seeing traffic at about 9-10am go up considerably and then stay there 
> until the evening rush starts, but the overall nightly peak is about the same 
> as before.
> 
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> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2020 8:58:40 AM
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Covid19 bandwidth
> 
> > Looks like winter break to me.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Josh Luthman
> > Office: 937-552-2340
> > Direct: 937-552-2343
> > 1100 Wayne St
> > Suite 1337
> > Troy, OH 45373
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 2:01 PM Ken Hohhof < [ 
> > mailto:af...@kwisp.com | af...@kwisp.com ] > wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Businesses with no people at the office but “the server” and “the shared 
> > drive”
> > are still there may find they are not set up for their entire 
> > workforce to work from home. The office could become the bottleneck.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I often get frustrated with everything going “to the cloud”, but 
> > this might be a situation where that is a good thing.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: AF < [ mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com | 
> > af-boun...@af.afmug.com ] > On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 12:43 PM
> > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < [ mailto:af@af.afmug.com | 
> > af@af.afmug.com ] >
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Covid19 bandwidth
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Yeah, it makes sense that would mainly be an increase in daytime 
> > usage, and that's mostly what we're seeing as well.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I do expect the upload thing to be a problem though...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 12:21 PM Ken Hohhof < [ 
> > mailto:af...@kwisp.com | af...@kwisp.com ] > wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Kind of the same here, peaks not that much higher, but heavy usage all day.
> > Companies are still sending more people to work from home, and I'm 
> > starting to get calls from people trying to save big files to the 
> > shared drive at the office (over a VPN which adds overhead) and 
> > saying something must be wrong because it's taking 5 minutes to save a file.
> > 
> > I don't think upstream bandwidth is an issue for the kids watching 
> > Disney+ or even the ones actually doing schoolwork. But a lot of 
> > people working from home seem to have a workflow that involves 
> > download a huge file, edit it, upload the changed file, and given 
> > that the Internet is pretty much built to deliver Netflix, they are running 
> > out of upload bandwidth.
> > 
> > I'm not sure that is something we can dramatically change. I mean, 
> > we've got upstream bandwidth sitting unused on our licensed 
> > backhauls and our upstream provider connections, but not on the last 
> > mile connections. And it's not just WISPs. The Internet is built for 
> > downloading.
> > 
> > I would probably work on another task while the previous one was 
> > uploading, but that apparently doesn't work for most people. I could 
> > also wish for IT departments to use more of an edit-it-in-the-cloud 
> > approach like Google Sheets, but a lot of these people literally got 
> > told to pack up their work computers in their cars and take them 
> > home. And everything was set up for an office LAN environment.
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: AF < [ mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com | 
> > af-boun...@af.afmug.com ] > On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 11:58 AM
> > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < [ mailto:af@af.afmug.com | 
> > af@af.afmug.com ] >
> > Subject: [AFMUG] Covid19 bandwidth
> > 
> > From where I'm sitting it looks like peak time usage has only gone 
> > up maybe 10% if at all, but the ramp up towards peak starts at noon 
> > instead of at 6pm. I'm comparing late February to mid March.
> > 
> > A lot of people were concerned about bandwidth, but I'm honestly not 
> > seeing a difference in a way that actually matters. I'm sure 
> > consumption in terms of GB will be higher, but I don't think we actually 
> > have to care.
> > 
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