What's the cost on those?
On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 10:53 PM Kurt Fankhauser <lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote: > Don't know if i had something else going on but my AF11 link that was > showing 650mbps in the interface was never able to pass more than about > 500mbps, switched to Aviat and wow 1.4bps full duplex is freaking amazing. > > On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 12:58 AM Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> > wrote: > >> I messed up that last email. We're upgrading three AF11 links with Aviat >> this spring. We'll move the AF11 links to other towers that could use more >> than the 5ghz backhauls are providing. >> >> On Thu, Mar 26, 2020, 11:56 PM Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Do what Kurt is doing and what I'm fine, replace the AF11 with aviat in >>> same channels. The increase is from 650mb full duplex to 1400mb full >>> duplex. >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2020, 3:24 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Here is a circulator and BPF style. "Should" work great with very >>>> little >>>> loss. >>>> But expensive. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: ch...@wbmfg.com >>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 1:18 PM >>>> To: af@af.afmug.com >>>> Subject: Re: AF11 custom combiner >>>> >>>> This is the hybrid combiner version. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: ch...@wbmfg.com >>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 1:06 PM >>>> To: Nate Burke ; af@af.afmug.com >>>> Subject: Re: AF11 custom combiner >>>> >>>> Now that I think about it, this will not work without sharp bandpass >>>> filters >>>> on the transmitters. >>>> To do what I have drawn here without the filters you would need a hybrid >>>> combiner on the TX and you will lose another 3 dB in that. >>>> >>>> So 6 dB loss over all from one end to the other. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: ch...@wbmfg.com >>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 1:00 PM >>>> To: Nate Burke ; af@af.afmug.com >>>> Subject: AF11 custom combiner >>>> >>>> Nate, I am posting this to the list too. Want to see if I made a >>>> mistake >>>> here. I don't have a ton of experience with the internals of the AF11. >>>> I think each diplexer feeds a TX and an RX right? >>>> Not sure how good the RX input filters are. So I used a splitter rather >>>> than circulators. >>>> >>>> Circulators would have less loss but you have to have a pretty sharp >>>> bandpass filter on the front of the receivers to do that trick. >>>> You could add the filters. >>>> >>>> Not sure this will work without TX filters too but I think it will. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Nate Burke >>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:15 AM >>>> To: ch...@wbmfg.com >>>> Subject: Re: Re: AF11 custom combiner >>>> >>>> Both paths are dual polarity v/h >>>> SiteA >>>> Radio1 TX 11505 >>>> Radio2 TX 11225 >>>> >>>> SiteB >>>> Radio1 TX 11015 >>>> Radio2 TX 10735 >>>> >>>> Those are different Diplexers on the AF11 Radios 11015x11505 is the >>>> high diplexer 11225x10735 is the low diplexer. If they were just >>>> single pol licenses, I'm already doing that with 2 radios on 1 AF11 >>>> dish, one radio on V one radio on H. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Nate >>>> >>>> >>>> On 3/25/2020 12:07 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: >>>> > 10735 is pretty close to 11015. Would these be tx frequencies? >>>> > Need to know what is RX and what is TX at this site. Also what is on >>>> what >>>> > polarization. >>>> > -----Original Message----- From: Nate Burke Sent: Wednesday, March 25, >>>> > 2020 10:55 AM To: ch...@wbmfg.com Subject: Re: AF11 custom combiner >>>> > The boss is asking the questions, and in his mind it should be as >>>> simple >>>> > as wire-nutting the 3 coax's together. So I have to follow up with >>>> why >>>> > that won't work and present a solution for him. >>>> > >>>> > Channels we have are >>>> > 11505x11015 (high) >>>> > 11225x10735 (low) >>>> > >>>> > Thanks, >>>> > Nate >>>> > >>>> > On 3/25/2020 11:10 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: >>>> >> Yes, you can do that and it is lossy. >>>> >> Circulators and splitters are frequently used. >>>> >> Being high/low licenses makes things a bit more difficult. >>>> >> >>>> >> If you can give me details as to what radios and frequencies you >>>> want to >>>> >> put on the AF11 dish I can think on it a bit. >>>> >> >>>> >> -----Original Message----- From: Nate Burke >>>> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 9:44 AM >>>> >> To: Chuck McCown >>>> >> Subject: AF11 custom combiner >>>> >> >>>> >> Chuck, We've been using your AF11 REMEC adapters in a couple >>>> places. I >>>> >> have a location where I can't physically add another Dish, but I do >>>> have >>>> >> 2 licensed channels to the site. 1 high band and 1 low band. Is >>>> there >>>> >> a way to combine 2 dual band radios onto the same dish? I already >>>> have >>>> >> the AF11 dish installed, so if there was just a way to do a >>>> >> splitter/combiner with the N Connectors, that would be ideal. I >>>> didn't >>>> >> know if such a beast existed, or if it was something in your >>>> >> engineering/production toolbag, or if it's technically impossible. >>>> >> Maybe using the Coax would be too much loss, and the only way to do >>>> it >>>> >> would be with a feedhorn combiner, and the remec adapters. I thought >>>> >> this might be something that you would just know off the top of your >>>> >> head. >>>> >> >>>> >> Thank you, >>>> >> Nate Burke >>>> >> Blast Communications >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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