The CCR 2004 can take the same +- 48 vDC power supply as the current generation CCR1016 and CCR1036.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kurt Fankhauser" <lists.wavel...@gmail.com> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 12:11:28 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out Is the power options for this CCR2004 only AC power? If so that is a going to be a huge issue for most of the sites I have that are DC powered! I need routers with 10G SFP+ ports that can be powered from DC/AC On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 12:24 AM Steve Jones < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > wrote: You guys all need to calm the heck down with this talk, you're gonna get us all killed. Look at what the lunatics are doing to the 5g operators. When they find out afmug is over here operating 25 40 and 100g networks, theyll send out armys of Karen's with the short hair to put our heads on pikes. We have worked too hard over the years building this industry up for us to all be skinned alive when Janet or Kyle find the afmug archive. On Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 8:04 AM Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: <blockquote> I agree if it's a transport system or a modern switch. If it's an older switch, 40G is all it's got, no 25G and no 100G. Who buys new switches when a switch is a switch and there's a large supply of older switches? Yes, obviously there's a demand, but it's not going to be most of us in this room. When I have actually gotten quotes for 40G transport, they were more than 4x 10G and about the same as 100G (though I had no 100G equipment). In those scenarios, a 25G wave would actually do great. Well, other than needing new switches which aren't cheap. In one facility in Indy, we offer 1G, 10G, 25G, 40G, and 100G. :-) We're rolling out 40G in another, but the rest will stay 10G for the time being. I suppose we could always put a 25G customer on, just bypassing the switch in that building and going right into the mux to the central switch. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Trey Scarborough" < t...@3dsc.co > To: af@af.afmug.com Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 5:34:16 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out you are only comparing SFP transceiver cost. The reason why it is dead is transport equipment and switch equipment you pretty much are burning a 100G port to do 40g there are some 100G 2x40 transponders out there but they are the same cost as a 200G 2x100G transponder so if you go to order a 40G wave service it will cost you the same as a 100G maybe more if they have to use an OTU4 to 40GLANPHY card. As well most switches being deployed by providers are 100G/25G/10G and don't have 40G ports. so you hae to burn a 100G port to provide 40G therefor the cost is priced accordingly. Is it dead in the data center space for the most part to because the power requirements vs speed is horrible uses almost as much power as a 100G and only get 40% of the bandwidth. The power for a 25G is comparable to 10G. Starting to see 25G IX connection options as well. Don't worry you are going to start seeing a bunch more 25G options coming out because the demand is growing. There are already companies starting to sell 25G channelized DWDM optics. The price at the moment is high because they are new and the demand is low, but will greatly reduce the cost the more that the utilization grows. On 4/24/2020 10:07 AM, Steven Kenney wrote: <blockquote> That is up for debate but we'll see in a few years. I'd rather jump to 40 than 25. You almost defeated your own point stating you have a lot of 40G laying around. Price has come down on them and transceivers are not as expensive either. Personally I'd rather jump to 100 :) 40G transceivers I can get for most models for $55. (short range) Same price for 25G! Why bother with 25? Short range 100G are under $200 each. -- Steven Kenney Network Operations Manager WaveDirect Telecommunications http://www.wavedirect.net (519)737-WAVE (9283) From: "Kurt Fankhauser" <lists.wavel...@gmail.com> To: "af" <af@af.afmug.com> Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 10:03:36 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out Dennis,how many of these do you have on order? On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 9:42 AM Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: <blockquote> 25G will be far more common than 40G. 40G is dead and has been dead for years. I wish that wasn't so because I have a lot of 40G switches that I'd love to connect to things, but that's not going to happen. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Steven Kenney" < st...@wavedirect.org > To: "af" < af@af.afmug.com > Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 8:38:00 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out Ugh.. I was wondering when the 40Gbps version was coming out. 25 is kinda a black sheep in the industry. Good luck matching equipment with upstreams. 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