So this can be used on the newer 1036 models? Older ones did not accept 48VDC.
> On Apr 26, 2020, at 9:03 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: > > > https://mikrotik.com/product/pw48v_12v85w > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > Midwest Internet Exchange > > The Brothers WISP > > > > > From: "Josh Baird" <joshba...@gmail.com> > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> > Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 7:54:56 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out > > Actually, the 1016/1036 are 24VDC, not 48VDC. The 1009 is 48VDC. > >> On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 7:47 AM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: >> The CCR 2004 can take the same +- 48 vDC power supply as the current >> generation CCR1016 and CCR1036. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> >> Midwest Internet Exchange >> >> The Brothers WISP >> >> >> >> >> From: "Kurt Fankhauser" <lists.wavel...@gmail.com> >> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> >> Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 12:11:28 AM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out >> >> Is the power options for this CCR2004 only AC power? If so that is a going >> to be a huge issue for most of the sites I have that are DC powered! I need >> routers with 10G SFP+ ports that can be powered from DC/AC >> >>> On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 12:24 AM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> You guys all need to calm the heck down with this talk, you're gonna get us >>> all killed. Look at what the lunatics are doing to the 5g operators. When >>> they find out afmug is over here operating 25 40 and 100g networks, theyll >>> send out armys of Karen's with the short hair to put our heads on pikes. We >>> have worked too hard over the years building this industry up for us to all >>> be skinned alive when Janet or Kyle find the afmug archive. >>> >>>> On Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 8:04 AM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: >>>> I agree if it's a transport system or a modern switch. If it's an older >>>> switch, 40G is all it's got, no 25G and no 100G. Who buys new switches >>>> when a switch is a switch and there's a large supply of older switches? >>>> Yes, obviously there's a demand, but it's not going to be most of us in >>>> this room. >>>> >>>> When I have actually gotten quotes for 40G transport, they were more than >>>> 4x 10G and about the same as 100G (though I had no 100G equipment). In >>>> those scenarios, a 25G wave would actually do great. Well, other than >>>> needing new switches which aren't cheap. >>>> >>>> >>>> In one facility in Indy, we offer 1G, 10G, 25G, 40G, and 100G. :-) We're >>>> rolling out 40G in another, but the rest will stay 10G for the time being. >>>> I suppose we could always put a 25G customer on, just bypassing the switch >>>> in that building and going right into the mux to the central switch. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> Mike Hammett >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>> >>>> Midwest Internet Exchange >>>> >>>> The Brothers WISP >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: "Trey Scarborough" <t...@3dsc.co> >>>> To: af@af.afmug.com >>>> Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 5:34:16 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out >>>> >>>> you are only comparing SFP transceiver cost. The reason why it is dead is >>>> transport equipment and switch equipment you pretty much are burning a >>>> 100G port to do 40g there are some 100G 2x40 transponders out there but >>>> they are the same cost as a 200G 2x100G transponder so if you go to order >>>> a 40G wave service it will cost you the same as a 100G maybe more if they >>>> have to use an OTU4 to 40GLANPHY card. As well most switches being >>>> deployed by providers are 100G/25G/10G and don't have 40G ports. so you >>>> hae to burn a 100G port to provide 40G therefor the cost is priced >>>> accordingly. >>>> >>>> Is it dead in the data center space for the most part to because the power >>>> requirements vs speed is horrible uses almost as much power as a 100G and >>>> only get 40% of the bandwidth. The power for a 25G is comparable to 10G. >>>> Starting to see 25G IX connection options as well. >>>> >>>> Don't worry you are going to start seeing a bunch more 25G options coming >>>> out because the demand is growing. There are already companies starting to >>>> sell 25G channelized DWDM optics. The price at the moment is high because >>>> they are new and the demand is low, but will greatly reduce the cost the >>>> more that the utilization grows. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 4/24/2020 10:07 AM, Steven Kenney wrote: >>>> That is up for debate but we'll see in a few years. I'd rather jump to 40 >>>> than 25. You almost defeated your own point stating you have a lot of 40G >>>> laying around. Price has come down on them and transceivers are not as >>>> expensive either. Personally I'd rather jump to 100 :) >>>> >>>> 40G transceivers I can get for most models for $55. (short range) Same >>>> price for 25G! Why bother with 25? >>>> Short range 100G are under $200 each. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Steven Kenney >>>> Network Operations Manager >>>> WaveDirect Telecommunications >>>> http://www.wavedirect.net >>>> (519)737-WAVE (9283) >>>> >>>> From: "Kurt Fankhauser" <lists.wavel...@gmail.com> >>>> To: "af" <af@af.afmug.com> >>>> Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 10:03:36 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out >>>> >>>> Dennis,how many of these do you have on order? >>>> >>>> On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 9:42 AM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: >>>>> 25G will be far more common than 40G. >>>>> 40G is dead and has been dead for years. I wish that wasn't so because I >>>>> have a lot of 40G switches that I'd love to connect to things, but that's >>>>> not going to happen. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- >>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>>> >>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange >>>>> >>>>> The Brothers WISP >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: "Steven Kenney" <st...@wavedirect.org> >>>>> To: "af" <af@af.afmug.com> >>>>> Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 8:38:00 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out >>>>> >>>>> Ugh.. I was wondering when the 40Gbps version was coming out. 25 is >>>>> kinda a black sheep in the industry. Good luck matching equipment with >>>>> upstreams. 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