I listened to an interview / podcast with the head guy at Memphis Meats, it's a pretty interesting company / concept.
https://www.memphismeats.com/ On Tuesday, April 28, 2020, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > "takes less space" is easier to manage, easier equating to substantial > costs > it also means much less taxable space > > On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 9:44 PM Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Last I heard the game meat isn't great health wise. Chick fill of >> hormones or some such. >> >> Loving in the Midwest I guess I don't get the whole "takes less space" >> argument. If there is anything we have an abundance of here it is space. >> Now water, maybe it takes less water. In the summer cattle or here drink >> around 25 gallons or more a day for a full grown cow. >> >> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 8:42 PM Jason McKemie < >> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: >> >>> Fake meat and lab grown meat are probably the future. Lab grown meat >>> specifically is cleaner, uses less space, scales better, and is infinitely >>> more humane than the way we're doing mass meat production now. I don't >>> think anyone is arguing that it can replace a good, small/local farm raised >>> steak. It can definitely replace what passes for meat at most fast food >>> establishments, however. >>> >>> On Tuesday, April 28, 2020, David Coudron <david.coud...@advantenon.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I know, there seems to be an inordinate amount of time and money put >>>> into fake meat. As you say, growing up on a cattle, hog and dairy farm, >>>> fake meat is blasphemy. It just isn’t the same smoking/grilling chicken >>>> thighs and wrapping them in bacon when the chicken and bacon are made out >>>> of “plankton”. (I did my best to pull together the chicken thigh and >>>> Soylent Green threads… 😊 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> David Coudron >>>> >>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of * Ken Hohhof >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 28, 2020 6:32 PM >>>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] What Really Happened in Wuhan >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I thought they were making progress using robots to cut up the >>>> carcasses. But I just did a Google search, and there seem to be articles >>>> saying the robots are coming, and other articles saying they aren’t. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Maybe I need to try that “plant meat”. Although that’s blasphemy, >>>> since many of my customers make their living raising pigs or cows. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *David Coudron >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 28, 2020 6:09 PM >>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] What Really Happened in Wuhan >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I think what he is referring to is that there is an over abundance of >>>> the product available to manufacture/distribute. I grew up as a farm kid >>>> and when we were young, every farmer had pigs, beef cattle (we called them >>>> feeder cattle) and dairy. Now, it has all moved to highly efficient, >>>> large operations. Most farmers can’t make any money as a small dairy or >>>> hog operation, and it is way too much work for what you can make. So >>>> everything consolidated into large, efficient operations. As many know, >>>> they have been dumping milk because they have to milk the cows, they cannot >>>> skip a rotation or the cows get infections (mastitis). Same with the >>>> large pig operations. They have pigs that are mature and have to moved >>>> out of the feed lots/buildings. This is due to the cost of continuing to >>>> feed them, and the need to make room for the smaller ones that are coming >>>> in regardless. So next week back where I grew up, they are starting to >>>> shoot the pigs, and they’ll have to bury them. So what is going to happen >>>> is that we will be killing pigs and burying them, but there will be no meat >>>> on the shelves because of the meat packing plant issue. I supposed it is >>>> more accurately called manufacturing rather than distribution, however, I >>>> might argue feed and water are the raw materials and the growing/finishing >>>> is the manufacturing, it is the long pole in the tent for timing. Meat >>>> packing is a pretty short time period and it is probably manufacturing, but >>>> only the tail end of it. It takes 6-9 months to grow a hog to slaughter >>>> weight, and 3-5 days to get it to your table. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I am not commenting on whether his comments are right or wrong, but my >>>> wager is that in two weeks meat will be the next toilet paper if it isn’t >>>> already. As you said, I am not sure how well that will work to force them >>>> to stay open, but things are going to get very nuts of we have 3-4 weeks of >>>> most meat packing plants being closed. Of course most of the issue will be >>>> over-reaction like the toilet paper thing. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Really sad to see farmers have to destroy finished hogs and stores with >>>> no meat in them. But, like the sheetrock shortage 20 years ago, the >>>> antifreeze shortage 15 years ago, the LCD screen shortage (whenever that >>>> was 😊) these highly consolidated, highly efficient, low margin supply >>>> chains don’t deal with disruption very well. Not really anyone’s fault, >>>> but tough to see. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *David Coudron* >>>> >>>> david.coud...@advantenon.com | *Mobile: *612-991-7474 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *Advantenon, Inc. * >>>> >>>> i...@advantenon.com | 3500 Vicksburg Lane N, Suite 315, Plymouth, MN >>>> 55447 >>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/3500+Vicksburg+Lane+N,+Suite+315,+Plymouth,+MN+55447?entry=gmail&source=g> >>>> | www.advantenon.com | *Phone:* 800-704-4720 | *Local: * >>>> 612-454-1545 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 28, 2020 5:47 PM >>>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] What Really Happened in Wuhan >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> So I was out all day today actually doing work, and now that I’m home I >>>> see this: >>>> >>>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/trump-plans-to-order- >>>> meat-processing-plants-to-stay-open-during-coronavirus/ar-BB13kBRq >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I have no f’ing idea how that’s gonna play out. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Also the article quotes him as saying there’s plenty of supply, it’s a >>>> distribution problem. I have to suspect the reporting got it wrong and he >>>> was talking about milk or green beans or potatoes. Because I would not >>>> refer to a slaughterhouse as “distribution”. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On a semi related note, with all the ethanol plants shutting down >>>> because gas sales are down, why can I still not buy Purell? We should be >>>> swimming in ethanol. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 28, 2020 5:11 PM >>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] What Really Happened in Wuhan >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> "long pig" is different than ordinary pig... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 4:26 PM James Howard <ja...@litewire.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> Since when have pigs not been people? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 28, 2020 2:57 PM >>>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] What Really Happened in Wuhan >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I’m waiting for someone to start a Soylent Green conspiracy theory >>>> about why there are thousands of infections at meat packing plants but we >>>> don’t hear about lots of deaths. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Chuck is safe, though. His Vienna Sausages are new old stock. Made >>>> the old fashioned way, from snouts and feet and tails and everything but >>>> the squeal. But at least they’re not people! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 28, 2020 1:08 PM >>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] What Really Happened in Wuhan >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> when my dad was in korea during vietnam, he didnt question the source >>>> of the "beef". but then again, he also drank booze that was made in a pit >>>> in the ground that you had to strain the squiggly live things out of. So im >>>> pretty sure a dog or cat with the kimchi wasnt any isue >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 12:54 PM Steven Kenney <st...@wavedirect.org> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I've seen some things in China that would scar you for life what they >>>> do to dogs/cats/animals. I guess when you are hungry you'll do anything. >>>> Used to think it was cliche or just a joke about over there. Its not. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Steven Kenney >>>> Network Operations Manager >>>> WaveDirect Telecommunications >>>> http://www.wavedirect.net >>>> (519)737-WAVE (9283) >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> *From: *"James Howard" <ja...@litewire.net> >>>> *To: *"af" <af@af.afmug.com> >>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, April 28, 2020 12:07:41 PM >>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] What Really Happened in Wuhan >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> So you’re saying the cat should have been pictured sitting in a lunch >>>> box? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steven >>>> Kenney >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 28, 2020 10:53 AM >>>> *To:* af <af@af.afmug.com> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: What Really Happened in Wuhan >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I don't think they keep cats as pets...... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Steven Kenney >>>> Network Operations Manager >>>> WaveDirect Telecommunications >>>> http://www.wavedirect.net >>>> (519)737-WAVE (9283) >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> *From: *"Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> >>>> *To: *"af" <af@af.afmug.com> >>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, April 28, 2020 10:59:59 AM >>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: What Really Happened in Wuhan >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> and Facebook will publish a thousand variations. >>>> >>>> bp >>>> >>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 4/28/2020 7:47 AM, Steve Jones wrote: >>>> >>>> google will remove this truth from the internet >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 9:39 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Yes! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 28, 2020 8:53 AM >>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com >>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT: What Really Happened in Wuhan >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> Mike Hammett >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>>> >>>> >>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> *Total Control Panel* >>>> >>>> Login <https://asp.reflexion.net/login?domain=litewire.net> >>>> >>>> To: ja...@litewire.net >>>> <https://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=242260993&domain=litewire.net> >>>> >>>> From: af-boun...@af.afmug.com >>>> >>>> *You received this message because the domain afmug.com >>>> <http://afmug.com> is on your allow list.* >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> *Total Control Panel* >>>> >>>> Login <https://asp.reflexion.net/login?domain=litewire.net> >>>> >>>> To: ja...@litewire.net >>>> <https://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=242260993&domain=litewire.net> >>>> >>>> From: af-boun...@af.afmug.com >>>> >>>> *You received this message because the domain afmug.com >>>> <http://afmug.com> is on your allow list.* >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >
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