you ever seen a podunk meth dealers arsenal?
On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 9:33 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think one of the things they want to do is de-militarize the police.
> Local podunk PDs have no business buying million dollar MRAPs.
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> On 6/15/2020 7:29 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
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> the problem is the defund the police folks dont understand economics.
> there isnt enough money as it is for maintaining the police presence for
> the criminal side of things. taking that money and paying for a bunch of
> counsellors doesnt lead to having enough cops. Removing police from schools
> is a 1 percent thing, the other 99 percent will pull their kids out without
> resource officers. Mental health still will need police, they dont go to a
> hot environment because they dont have arrest powers if it goes downhill,
> and you dont want jonna the counselor having to fight the loon.
> They want to disarm the police. thats a big no, complete non starter. They
> consider the bullet proof vests to be a mechanism of intimidation, anyone
> who has actually had a vest do its job would never let somebody else go in
> without one.
> Maybe they try an actual wholistic approach, stop making everything
> illegal, and you immediately have less criminals
> stop overcharging for pleas, Mike flynn being an ally example I wish they
> would recognize. The media says if he wasnt guilty, why would he take a
> plea? I can find you thousands of young black men who can answer that
> question without skipping a beat.
> Get rid of plea bargains all together, make DAs actually work for their
> conviction rates at trial, bet you see a less burdened court and prison
> system right quick.
> Prisons cost 30-70k annually per inmate. Thats a whole lot of dough to put
> into those other programs, and over time that cost goes down as guards age
> out and dont need to be replaced because the cells are empty.
>
> defund the police is targeting a symptom of a virus and giving it an
> antibiotic (its the wrong treatment)
>
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 7:38 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
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>> For many people, that seems to mean stop funding the police to deal with
>> issues like mental health, homelessness, domestic disputes, street vendors,
>> routine discipline in schools, etc., and instead use that money to fund
>> specialists, and let the police handle murders and robberies and stuff.
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>> I had a discussion with someone who is all for defund the police and I
>> said if that’s what they mean, the term really sucks, because it conveys
>> something totally different and many people are not going to support
>> something that sounds like disband the police and then nobody handles
>> murders and robberies. Rather than saying reform the police, or narrow
>> their focus, or move some of their responsibilities to other agencies. But
>> he said I was wrong, without really explaining why I was wrong. I think he
>> meant we can call it what we want to, who cares if it’s unnecessarily
>> provocative. Or maybe he really does want to disband the police.
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>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *justsumname .
>> *Sent:* Monday, June 15, 2020 6:14 PM
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>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT: batcrazy
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>> is it just the 'news' that I'm reading or are things really going totally
>> bathshitcrazy ?!? "de-fund the police" .... is just ONE thing.
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