No we are not pre-defining blocks at this time, I will look at implementing 
that, thank you.

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Total Highspeed Internet Solutions
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> From: "afmug" <af...@ics-il.net>
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2020 12:12:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Issue with Google

> Are you pre-defining blocks, though?
> 
> Inside IP     Outside IP/Port range
> 100.64.1.1    2.2.2.2:2000-2099
> 100.64.1.2    2.2.2.2:2100-2199
> 100.64.1.3    2.2.2.2:2200-2299
> I'd do more than 100 ports, but table is just meant to express the concept.
> 
> Then you ALWAYS know IP:port to internal IP matching, without having to track
> anything.
> 
> 
> 
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> From: "Christopher Tyler" <ch...@totalhighspeed.net>
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2020 12:07:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Issue with Google
> 
> That is how we are doing it for the most part. We still have a lot of old
> 172.16.0.0/12 addresses that need to be converted to 100.64.0.0/10. We have
> been and still are steadily working towards that goal though.
> 
> --
> Christopher Tyler
> Senior Network Engineer
> MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
> 
> Total Highspeed Internet Solutions
> 1091 W. Kathryn Street
> Nixa, MO 65714
> (417) 851-1107 x. 9002
> www.totalhighspeed.com
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "afmug" <af...@ics-il.net>
>> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
>> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2020 12:00:18 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Issue with Google
> 
>> If you're NATing multiple customers behind a single IP address, do it this 
>> way:
>> 
>> 
>> [
>> https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:IP/Firewall/NAT#Carrier-Grade_NAT_.28CGNAT.29_or_NAT444
>> | 
>> https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:IP/Firewall/NAT#Carrier-Grade_NAT_.28CGNAT.29_or_NAT444
>> ]
>> 
>> 
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>> Mike Hammett
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>> 
>> From: "Christopher Tyler" <ch...@totalhighspeed.net>
>> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
>> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2020 11:46:07 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Issue with Google
>> 
>> Yes, NAT is in play here, I just now increased the NAT pool to 128 addresses
>> based on TJ's theory that the NAT pool might be too small.
>> 
>> The source IP's seem to be spoofed or proxied somehow as the first IP 
>> address in
>> the list from Google is our ARIN /20 Network address (x.x.0.0) and I find it
>> hard to believe that our gateway router is scraping Google for content.
>> 
>> --
>> Christopher Tyler
>> Senior Network Engineer
>> MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
>> 
>> Total Highspeed Internet Solutions
>> 1091 W. Kathryn Street
>> Nixa, MO 65714
>> (417) 851-1107 x. 9002
>> www.totalhighspeed.com
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "afmug" <af...@ics-il.net>
>>> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2020 11:37:58 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Issue with Google
>> 
>>> You have the source IP, port, and time. What more do you need to determine 
>>> who's
>>> doing it?
>>> 
>>> I'm assuming you're NATing customers at the router in question.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
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>>> 
>>> From: "Christopher Tyler" <ch...@totalhighspeed.net>
>>> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2020 10:59:30 AM
>>> Subject: [AFMUG] Issue with Google
>>> 
>>> So the other day we got an email (excerpt below) from Google's automated 
>>> tool...
>>> 
>>> We are seeing automated scraping of Google Web Search from a large
>>> number of your IPs. Automated scraping violates our /robots.txt file
>>> and also our Terms of Service. We request that you terminate this
>>> traffic immediately. Failure to do so may cause your network to be
>>> blocked by our abuse systems.
>>> 
>>> To allow you to identify the traffic, we are providing a list of
>>> your IPs they used today (Source field), as well as the most common
>>> destination (Google) IP and port and a timestamp of a recent request
>>> (in UTC) to aid in your identification. Note that this list may not
>>> be exhaustive, and we request that you terminate all such traffic, not
>>> just traffic from IPs in this list.
>>> 
>>> All of the destination ports (to Google) are either 80 or 443, so they at 
>>> least
>>> appear to be legit web traffic on the surface. They are obviously spoofed IP
>>> address as there are network addresses in the list and the IP belongs to a
>>> router that doesn't appear to be compromised in any way. The initial letter
>>> included 700+ IP addresses from our network.
>>> 
>>> It's now affecting our customers as they are now getting Captcha's for every
>>> couple of Google searches that they perform.
>>> 
>>> Does anyone know of a good way to track the perpetrator(s) down and/or know 
>>> of a
>>> way to mitigate this?
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Christopher Tyler
>>> Senior Network Engineer
>>> MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
>>> 
>>> Total Highspeed Internet Solutions
>>> 1091 W. Kathryn Street
>>> Nixa, MO 65714
>>> (417) 851-1107 x. 9002
>>> www.totalhighspeed.com
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