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-----Original Message----- From: Larry Smith
Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2020 9:40 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Political and I should probably not post this

And to stir the pot a little:

Add to all this the government restriction on evictions,
which I understand is also ending soon, so those that
squandered their extra money are going to be hauling
that 90" tv around in the back of their civic.

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On Thu August 6 2020 10:33, Lewis Bergman wrote:
A lot of this has to do with the employer as well right?

Another anecdotal story so be patient but it is a real one. My wife has a
little part time job at a jewelry store called James Avery. They sell cheap
silver stuff I think. She likes it and it only costs me about $100 a month
for her to work there. When retail was shut down they eventually laid
everyone off. Supposedly they also file unemployment for her. No idea if
she ever got it but they said they did. I don't think she ever got the $600 a week or whatever but again, I have no idea. After a few weeks they opened
and asked her to come back which she did. I would assume that if she had
refused (so she could collect her extra $600 a week from the feds) that is
a valid reason to suspend her unemployment and JA would have challenged
that. I know I would have.

A job offered that you used to perform and refused is a valid reason to
suspend benefits. So once your benefit is suspended what do you do? Go back
to work. If you worked for me, you would have to go get a job somewhere
else because I am not hiring you back but you still have to go find a job
somewhere or your lifestyle starts to rapidly change.

On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 10:16 AM Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com>

wrote:
> I just skimmed it but I think the TLDR on it is that since UI varies by
> state etc you can compare return to work rates for people making more > and > less then they used to and it seems they return to work at similar > rates.
>
> On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 10:10 AM Carl Peterson
> <cpeter...@portnetworks.com>
>
> wrote:
>> Pretty sure unemployment is taxed like ordinary income at the federal
>> level.  State by state varies.  I think your numbers are assuming it
>> isn't taxed?
>>
>> Yale did a study on this.
>>
>> CARES-UI_identification_vF(1).pdf
>> (2,000K)
>>
>> <https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0?ui=2&ik=65db33fe01&attid=0.1&permmsgid
>>=msg-a:r4257579253290864261&view=att&disp=safe&realattid=f_kdixrue20>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 9:59 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>> But at the risk of starting another brush fire...  but I want to know:
>>>
>>> People laid of in Utah get unemployment benefits.  I work hard to
>>> prevent those getting charged to me.  But I know that the rates paid
>>> are $496/week max.  That is Utah.
>>> So $12.40/hour take home.  Equivalent to much more gross.  Probably in
>>> the $17/hour range gross.
>>>
>>> Then if I understand it right, the feds were adding $600/week on top >>> of
>>> that?  $1096/week?  $56,992 annual rate.  Take home.  Equivalent to
>>> perhaps $80K gross?
>>>
>>> So a laid off bartender gets the equivalent of $40/hour to sit at >>> home,
>>> why would they want to work?  The press and libs in congress have been
>>> freaking out about the conservatives saying the fat benefit package is
>>> an incentive to not try to work. I believe that to be true. Why >>> would
>>> anyone work if they get that much for drinking beer and playing video
>>> games?
>>>
>>> Do I have this right?  Does the fed benefit add to the state benefit?
>>>
>>> I have a son that lived on $1000/month for years while in college.  He
>>> said he didn’t feel the pinch too much.  Had roommates.  Had a part
>>> time job.  Never asked me for money.
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