Chinese ebay specials... outdoor PTZ 1080p with PoE built in. Roughly $150
each.  I don't have (or haven't figured out) PTZ control through Xprotect,
so I just web into the specific camera if I need to change PTZ related.

And yes, Xprotect free for up to 8 cameras.  Even works with Wyze cams with
the RTSP firmware.

On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 3:30 PM Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:

> What brand cameras are you using?
>
> On 8/31/2020 4:23 PM, Ron M. wrote:
>
> I played a bit with Blue Iris, but eventually settled on
> https://www.milestonesys.com/solutions/platform/video-management-software/xprotect-essential/
> for my small implementation. Only have five cameras, and doing either RTSP
> or ONVIF to get the stream.
>
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 2:11 PM Eric Muehleisen <ericm...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I have 5 Amcrest/Foscam wifi 1080 cameras. I purchased a dirt cheap
>> Wansview off Amazon to keep an eye on my utility room. I only got it
>> because it was dirt cheap and you can stream it locally without all the
>> cloud BS.
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 2:54 PM Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:
>>
>>> what cameras are you using with it?
>>>
>>> On 8/31/2020 2:50 PM, Nate Burke wrote:
>>>
>>> Do you do full time recording?  Any concern with wearing out the SSD?  I
>>> thought they really didn't like that kind of operation.
>>>
>>> On 8/31/2020 2:47 PM, Eric Muehleisen wrote:
>>>
>>> It's much improved. I use the iphone app almost exclusively. It's been
>>> great. Push notifications. Nice geofencing capabilities for when you're
>>> home. The UI3 web interface is really slick as well. I run 6 Amcrest WiFi
>>> cameras at 1080 on 30 fps. Windows 10 machine with basic specs...runs
>>> around 20% CPU with hardware acceleration on. SSD makes retrieving clips
>>> and archives very snappy.
>>>
>>> I think you can download a 30 day trial.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 2:37 PM Nate Burke < <n...@blastcomm.com>
>>> n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm not against blue Iris, it's just been probably 10 years since I
>>>> last used it.  Back then you had to have a plugin for IE to do live view.
>>>> I'm guessing that's changed now to HTML5?  How is the live viewing.  Is it
>>>> the 'jerky' live view, or smooth live view?
>>>>
>>>> On 8/31/2020 2:31 PM, Eric Muehleisen wrote:
>>>>
>>>> +1. Blue Iris.
>>>>
>>>> BI is certainly superior in terms of software, but NVR is simpler and
>>>> cheaper to maintain then a full blown pc.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 2:29 PM Josh Baird < <joshba...@gmail.com>
>>>> joshba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Blue Iris.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 3:26 PM Adam Moffett < <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
>>>>> dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> So what's a good NVR?  I've hated every one I ever looked at.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/31/2020 3:12 PM, <can...@believewireless.net>
>>>>>> can...@believewireless.net wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Grandstream cameras are fine but their NVR BLOWS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 2:26 PM Nate Burke < <n...@blastcomm.com>
>>>>>> n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've been mostly happy with the Grandstream phones, has anyone tried
>>>>>>> their cameras?  Pricing looks ok.  They're Not 4k, But I'm not sure I 
>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 8/29/2020 4:27 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yep ..talk to Efrain or Bryan...tell them you are my friend and to
>>>>>>> give you my pricing...I know the owner and have been doing business with
>>>>>>> them since 1993.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 29, 2020, 3:07 PM TJ Trout < <t...@voltbb.com>
>>>>>>> t...@voltbb.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> epcom has the least expensive hikvision cameras and NVR's,
>>>>>>>> you're welcome ;p
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 1:03 PM Mike Hammett < <af...@ics-il.net>
>>>>>>>> af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've been leaning towards Hanwha.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>> *From: *"Nate Burke" < <n...@blastcomm.com>n...@blastcomm.com>
>>>>>>>>> *To: *"Animal Farm" < <af@af.afmug.com>af@af.afmug.com>
>>>>>>>>> *Sent: *Saturday, August 29, 2020 1:11:57 PM
>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Camera Systems
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I haven't put any new cameras in for a couple years.  Last one's I
>>>>>>>>> did
>>>>>>>>> were Unifi Protect.  And although it is still running, the
>>>>>>>>> software
>>>>>>>>> seems to be just as buggy as it was all those years ago, and for
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> features, the cameras are pretty expensive.  Are there any other
>>>>>>>>> low
>>>>>>>>> cost turnkey camera solutions out there?  I could do like a
>>>>>>>>> Zoneminder
>>>>>>>>> or BlueIris, but I'm lazy in my old age and was looking for
>>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>>> more plug and play.    I'm intrigued by the Blink or Nest cameras,
>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>> it looks like their only options are WIFI cameras, and I'd really
>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>> something POE.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm looking to put 2-3 cameras at tower sites, so I can go back
>>>>>>>>> and look
>>>>>>>>> at recordings to see if anyone has been there, or pull them up to
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> live view to see what the weather is like at the site.
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