Worse, stainless steel isn't galvanically compatible with galvanized/zinc coated steel. So if you use stainless hardware on a galvanized tower, then add a bit of water (especially salt water) and you have a battery, which will *cause* corrosion.
On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 8:31 PM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'll never understand why so many antenna manufacturers use stainless > hardware... I hate it. Why can't they just use galvanized... > > On Thu, Sep 3, 2020, 9:22 AM Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > >> Stainless has a galling/micro welding problem. Stainless nut on a >> stainless bolt is likely to never come off. Hot dip galvanized hardware >> never seems to have any issues. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Sep 3, 2020, at 4:32 AM, Matt Hoppes < >> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote: >> >> >> I’ve never understood the seizing issue. >> >> Do people really remove antennas that often that it’s a problem? >> >> I would rather my antennas lock down and stay. >> >> On Sep 2, 2020, at 11:48 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> I don’t want to assemble antennas onsite, and if possible I don’t want a >> tower guy doing it because they do everything with channelocks and a pocket >> knife. So most of the time I end up doing it. And I just hate assembling >> Commscope dishes. Haven’t used RFS so maybe they are wonderful. >> >> >> >> A tower site with wind and weather and gravel and dirt is not the place >> to be assembling things. If you drop a nut or washer, good luck finding >> it. Plus you maybe have a couple ground crew guys standing around while >> the tower guy assembles a dish, meanwhile you’re wasting good climbing >> weather. >> >> >> >> I wish all the antenna manufacturers would put serrations in their clamps >> to resist rotating under wind load. I wish Commscope 1 ft dishes would >> clamp onto a 1-5/8 dia pipe, or even the leg of a 25G or 45G tower, you >> shouldn’t need a 2-3/8 dia pipe for such a little dish. I wish dishes >> smaller than 4 ft would still have an attachment point for a support >> strut. I wish all dishes had lift hooks. I wish Commscope wouldn’t use >> stainless hardware that is prone to seizing, they give you a tube of the >> silver grease which will get all over everything if you use it. Radiowaves >> uses galvanized or stainless+brass or bronze nuts. >> >> >> >> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Daniel White >> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 2, 2020 7:25 PM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Who installed this?? >> >> >> >> Look at RFS. Over time while I was at SAF they turned into my favorite >> antenna vendor. >> >> When I was at SAF I sometimes worked directly with the antenna vendors as >> many of the ones SAF works with are headquartered in the US. Commscope, >> RFS, and Radiowaves all had different ideas about costs for shipping vs. >> costs for assembling onsite. If you save $50 on shipping and can pay a >> tower climber an hour to assemble it... it is worth it potentially in the >> big picture. >> >> >> >> [image: photograph] >> >> >> *Daniel White*Co-Founder & Managing Director of Operations >> >> *phone:* +1 (702) 470-2770 >> *direct:* +1 (702) 470-2766 >> >> Caleb Knauer <cknauer.li...@gmail.com> >> >> September 2, 2020 at 16:51 >> >> Ok logo looks the same. Radome assembly is different now though. I >> thought about taking it apart and flipping but the oopsy risk was high. >> Way easier and safer to pull the sticker off and swap the drain plugs. >> >> >> >> We standardized on Radiowaves because they’re already assembled and >> stouter. Also stiff arm options are way more flexible. Costs more but the >> time savings pay off esp when doing the 4ft+ sizes with what we do. >> >> >> >> >> >> Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> >> >> September 2, 2020 at 14:24 >> >> Like this one we put up I think 2 years ago? >> >> >> <image003.jpg> >> >> >> >> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On >> Behalf Of *Caleb Knauer >> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 2, 2020 2:55 PM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> >> <af@af.afmug.com> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Who installed this?? >> >> >> >> I’ve got 3/4/6ft in front of me right now and they’re all vinyl sticker >> logo. They may have changed it earlier this year about the same time they >> stopped putting the 820 mounting brackets on. Now it’s separate box with >> some spacers etc. First round didn’t have any instructions and they weren’t >> on the website either. Fun times. >> >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 2:47 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> Caleb Knauer <cknauer.li...@gmail.com> >> >> September 2, 2020 at 13:55 >> >> I’ve got 3/4/6ft in front of me right now and they’re all vinyl sticker >> logo. They may have changed it earlier this year about the same time they >> stopped putting the 820 mounting brackets on. Now it’s separate box with >> some spacers etc. First round didn’t have any instructions and they weren’t >> on the website either. Fun times. >> >> >> >> >> >> Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> >> >> September 2, 2020 at 12:46 >> >> Now that I think of it, we’ve put up several 2 ft 11 GHz Radiowaves >> dishes this year and I don’t think any of them had logos on the radomes. >> Neither pre-applied nor in the box. >> >> >> >> We also put up some 1 ft 18 GHz Andrew/Commscope dishes and those also >> had no logo. No Andrew lightning bolt either. But those are very small >> dishes. >> >> >> >> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On >> Behalf Of *Chuck McCown >> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 2, 2020 1:27 PM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> >> <af@af.afmug.com> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Who installed this?? >> >> >> >> Peel off and leave it or put your own on. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> >> >> September 2, 2020 at 12:26 >> >> Peel off and leave it or put your own on. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- - Forrest
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