I'm actually kind of jealous, I want to sell routers now. On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 1:42 PM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
> I don't support them. I never have. My CPE NATs. Whatever you do on the > inside is your problem and don't ask me to look at it. > > > Now that said, some customers (say for DSL and fiber) have a modem or ONT > with WiFi and so I now go that far, but no further. Unless you're directly > plugged into (or associated with) my equipment, I'm not going to spend any > time on the problem. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Joe Novak" <jno...@lrcomm.com> > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> > *Sent: *Monday, September 14, 2020 11:14:02 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Yunlink router? > > Well I'm glad that specific router isn't going for 6/per on alibaba. This > looks just like it: > > > https://yuncore.en.alibaba.com/product/60847306416-803098363/Realtek_Network_wireless_router_FR800_M1_With_Mesh_function_Router.html?spm=a2700.icbuShop.41413.20.3c006dca8hw5o8 > > > I'm not sure what you do about that. Consumer routers have hit such a bad > point I'm not sure what to do anymore. They all seem to have crap software, > which makes the 'okay' hardware worse. > > > On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 10:34 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: > >> It appears this is what the customer bought: >> >> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08FJ2TQRW >> >> To find a brand name you have to watch the video, it's apparently a >> Tamifly from DiJi, or is it LucaSng? >> >> Amazon will be the death of us, with 3rd party Chinese sellers and >> Chinese crap they bought off Alibaba and are reselling. Then they get >> phony "reviewers" to post glowing reviews to phony review sites. And >> Amazon says "Amazon's Choice for diji wifi router" and the listing says >> "Newest 2020" and it's a high speed gaming router ideal for home office & >> HD video streaming works great with any devices. >> >> Amazon always sells the best stuff, right? Like a Tamifly gaming router >> for $50. What could go wrong? Like big gaping security flaws? Why are we >> worried about Huawei and ZTE when our citizens install this crap on their >> home Internet? >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Robert Andrews >> Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 7:37 PM >> To: af@af.afmug.com >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Yunlink router? >> >> Yeah, and I was dumbfounded, he was talking stuff like "what's the iperf >> numbers for your network" I was thinking he had a clue, but somewhere >> he fell into the IFM trap... When he said there wasn't an ethernet >> anywhere, I think my jaw actually dropped because he gave me a look. >> >> On 09/11/2020 04:44 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >> > Unbelievable. >> > >> > As I was reading your email I was waiting for the part where he >> prewired the house with Cat6 or fiber to every room with wall outlet or >> ceiling WiFi6 APs in every room. Oops. >> > >> > I'm not a big fan of powerline networking as a primary solution. To >> fill a deadspot, sure. >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Robert Andrews >> > Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 5:26 PM >> > To: af@af.afmug.com >> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Yunlink router? >> > >> > We had a customer the other day have us come out to look at his new >> > house for a future install. The whole house is e-glass and concrete. >> > Interior as well as exterior walls. New concrete is wet. Between the >> > concrete and the eglass he had built a wifi proof blockhouse. I showed >> > him how bad the attenuation was from a phone set as a hotspot to another >> > phone in another room. Yeah he's going to be praying at the alter of >> > ethernet over powerlines because he put ZERO cat5 in during construction >> > figuring he was going to mesh the whole place.. Phone in 5 Ghz there >> > was barely a signal at all.. -85 from one room to another.. They all >> are experts now. The most dangerous person in the world is someone with >> just a little tech knowledge... >> > >> > On 09/11/2020 12:22 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >> >> When we deploy premise routers with SFP ports, customers could care >> >> less. Only one has ever been used, and that’s at a business customer >> >> where we used a direct attach cable to a POE switch for their VoIP >> phones. >> >> >> >> All customers want any more is WiFi. Nobody wants Ethernet. Or fiber. >> >> What they call “hardwired” or “Earth Net”. >> >> >> >> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Carl Peterson >> >> *Sent:* Friday, September 11, 2020 2:10 PM >> >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> >> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Yunlink router? >> >> >> >> With an SFP port?! >> >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 1:27 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com >> >> <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> >> >> Theese seems to bee thee one: >> >> >> >> https://yuncore.en.alibaba.com/ >> >> >> >> bp >> >> >> >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >> >> >> >> On 9/11/2020 11:14 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >> >> >> >> MAC address. So yes, could be OEM. But I asked the tech who >> >> did the install about a week ago and he said the router name >> was >> >> either Yunlink or something similar. He said that he’s seen >> one >> >> more recently. >> >> >> >> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> >> >> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Nate Burke >> >> *Sent:* Friday, September 11, 2020 1:05 PM >> >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> >> >> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Yunlink router? >> >> >> >> Is that what the router actually says, or just what the MAC is >> >> registered to? >> >> >> >> On 9/11/2020 12:54 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >> >> >> >> Anybody else encountered a Yunlink router? >> >> >> >> Where do customers find these things? Are they shopping >> on >> >> Alibaba? I can’t find Yunlink for sale on Amazon or >> >> anywhere else. We’ve got a new customer with an open DNS >> >> resolver and telnet interface. 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