You can sell trash on Amazon. Literally. https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-dumpster-divers-selling-trash-wsj-report-2019-12
From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Joe Novak Sent: Monday, September 14, 2020 2:07 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Yunlink router? I'm actually kind of jealous, I want to sell routers now. On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 1:42 PM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net <mailto:af...@ics-il.net> > wrote: I don't support them. I never have. My CPE NATs. Whatever you do on the inside is your problem and don't ask me to look at it. Now that said, some customers (say for DSL and fiber) have a modem or ONT with WiFi and so I now go that far, but no further. 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Well I'm glad that specific router isn't going for 6/per on alibaba. This looks just like it: https://yuncore.en.alibaba.com/product/60847306416-803098363/Realtek_Network_wireless_router_FR800_M1_With_Mesh_function_Router.html?spm=a2700.icbuShop.41413.20.3c006dca8hw5o8 I'm not sure what you do about that. Consumer routers have hit such a bad point I'm not sure what to do anymore. They all seem to have crap software, which makes the 'okay' hardware worse. On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 10:34 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote: It appears this is what the customer bought: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08FJ2TQRW To find a brand name you have to watch the video, it's apparently a Tamifly from DiJi, or is it LucaSng? Amazon will be the death of us, with 3rd party Chinese sellers and Chinese crap they bought off Alibaba and are reselling. Then they get phony "reviewers" to post glowing reviews to phony review sites. And Amazon says "Amazon's Choice for diji wifi router" and the listing says "Newest 2020" and it's a high speed gaming router ideal for home office & HD video streaming works great with any devices. Amazon always sells the best stuff, right? Like a Tamifly gaming router for $50. What could go wrong? Like big gaping security flaws? Why are we worried about Huawei and ZTE when our citizens install this crap on their home Internet? -----Original Message----- From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf Of Robert Andrews Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 7:37 PM To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Yunlink router? Yeah, and I was dumbfounded, he was talking stuff like "what's the iperf numbers for your network" I was thinking he had a clue, but somewhere he fell into the IFM trap... When he said there wasn't an ethernet anywhere, I think my jaw actually dropped because he gave me a look. On 09/11/2020 04:44 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > Unbelievable. > > As I was reading your email I was waiting for the part where he prewired the > house with Cat6 or fiber to every room with wall outlet or ceiling WiFi6 APs > in every room. Oops. > > I'm not a big fan of powerline networking as a primary solution. To fill a > deadspot, sure. > > -----Original Message----- > From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On > Behalf Of Robert Andrews > Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 5:26 PM > To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Yunlink router? > > We had a customer the other day have us come out to look at his new > house for a future install. The whole house is e-glass and concrete. > Interior as well as exterior walls. New concrete is wet. Between the > concrete and the eglass he had built a wifi proof blockhouse. I showed > him how bad the attenuation was from a phone set as a hotspot to another > phone in another room. Yeah he's going to be praying at the alter of > ethernet over powerlines because he put ZERO cat5 in during construction > figuring he was going to mesh the whole place.. Phone in 5 Ghz there > was barely a signal at all.. -85 from one room to another.. They all are > experts now. The most dangerous person in the world is someone with just a > little tech knowledge... > > On 09/11/2020 12:22 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >> When we deploy premise routers with SFP ports, customers could care >> less. Only one has ever been used, and that’s at a business customer >> where we used a direct attach cable to a POE switch for their VoIP phones. >> >> All customers want any more is WiFi. Nobody wants Ethernet. Or fiber. >> What they call “hardwired” or “Earth Net”. >> >> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > *On >> Behalf Of *Carl Peterson >> *Sent:* Friday, September 11, 2020 2:10 PM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com >> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Yunlink router? >> >> With an SFP port?! >> >> On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 1:27 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com >> <mailto:part15...@gmail.com> >> <mailto:part15...@gmail.com <mailto:part15...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Theese seems to bee thee one: >> >> https://yuncore.en.alibaba.com/ >> >> bp >> >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >> >> On 9/11/2020 11:14 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >> >> MAC address. So yes, could be OEM. But I asked the tech who >> did the install about a week ago and he said the router name was >> either Yunlink or something similar. He said that he’s seen one >> more recently. >> >> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com >> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > >> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > >> *On Behalf Of *Nate Burke >> *Sent:* Friday, September 11, 2020 1:05 PM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com >> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > >> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Yunlink router? >> >> Is that what the router actually says, or just what the MAC is >> registered to? >> >> On 9/11/2020 12:54 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >> >> Anybody else encountered a Yunlink router? >> >> Where do customers find these things? Are they shopping on >> Alibaba? I can’t find Yunlink for sale on Amazon or >> anywhere else. We’ve got a new customer with an open DNS >> resolver and telnet interface. 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