I’ve had cases where a UPS would cycle back and forth between trying to run off 
the generator and off batteries, each time it would try to run off the 
generator it would bog down the generator and the voltage would drop and the 
UPS would sense undervoltage and kick back to batteries and it would just 
thrash like that.  That was years ago, the last time I tried to use a 
conventional generator.  Doesn’t sound like your problem though.

 

It’s also possible the generator has a problem, needs a tuneup or something.  
Generators often sit with stale fuel in them, get overdue for oil changes, etc. 
 Can it run a load close to its rated capacity OK, like 6000 watts of electric 
heaters or something?  Can it run a sump pump?  I had a brand new generator 
once that would run but not with a significant load, turns out it had a spark 
plug cracked in shipment.

 

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 12:14 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Generator power supply questions

 

So you're thinking the 110v is probably its output and not relevant?  Carb 
issue could be causing it to bog down like that and it gets resolved by closing 
the choke a bit?

 

It's labeled for 6250 running watts and if I'm doing ~1500 that seems odd that 
it'd be an overloading issue.

 

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

 

On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 12:24 PM TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com 
<mailto:t...@voltbb.com> > wrote:

or maybe the 110v side is overloaded, maybe try running @ 220

 

On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 9:22 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > 
wrote:

Sounds like you have a carburetor issue.  Maybe some plugged up metering jets 
due to varnish.  

 

From: Josh Luthman 

Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 10:13 AM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Generator power supply questions

 

None of our generators or any one I've seen let's you adjust voltage.  The ones 
we have are all TroyBilt-ish with Briggs engines. 


The UPS did switch to the generator when I lowered the choke ~10%.  But it 
would not use the generator at full open and the generator sounded like it was 
bogging down.


 

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

 

On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 11:57 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > 
wrote:

But engine speed will affect voltage.  At least on older units.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Mark Radabaugh
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 9:40 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Generator power supply questions

Not sure what the generator is but most have the ability to adjust the 
output voltage and frequency.   If you have the option you could just crank 
the generator output voltage up enough to make the UPS happy.   Note that is 
done by adjusting the excitation voltage, not the speed of the engine. 
Engine speed changes frequency.      (All of this assumes a traditional 
generator, not a inverter style generator like the small Honda’s)

ark

> On Sep 21, 2020, at 10:22 AM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
> <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > 
> wrote:
>
> So Friday we have another 3 phase go down in the building.  They unplugged 
> it all so that wing had nothing.
>
> As a precaution I start up the generator.  When they're cutting the other 
> phases we are using I move it to the generator.  The generator complains 
> and the UPS units don't switch over.  I drop it to say 90% open choke and 
> the UPS switches over - but it's only 110v.  I'd like to know what's going 
> on here.
>
> I have 175 feet of 10 gauge (times 2).  Two circuits on the generator, two 
> runs of copper, two UPS.  UPS is doing about 5-6 amps each.
>
> What can I do better?  Should I?  It runs but I'd like to keep it as 
> simple as possible to avoid "teaching someone" to lower it from full open 
> choke.
>
> Josh Luthman
> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
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