I'm not a CEPH exert, but that is my understanding of it at a high level. 



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From: "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> 
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2020 8:05:35 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Virtual machines 


I would assume CEPH takes the physical disks from each host and combines them 
into one logical storage for use by the entire cluster? 


On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 7:39 AM Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




CEPH kind of fills the void where you don't need a dedicated, shared storage 
box. 




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From: "Adam Moffett" < dmmoff...@gmail.com > 
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2020 7:34:14 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Virtual machines 


If you're going to have multiple physical VM hosts then fast shared storage is 
very helpful. When you want to reboot a physical machine for OS upgrade and the 
VM's are on shared storage then you can migrate them off that box in a few 
seconds. Do your maintenance, reboot, migrate VM's back. No downtime. 

On 9/27/2020 11:43 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: 

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Thanks guys. Proxmox didn't even come up in my searches. I'll look into it. If 
anyone really knows the space and wouldn't mind spending 15 minutes discussing 
what we need I would appreciate it. 


On Sun, Sep 27, 2020, 10:21 AM Bill Prince < part15...@gmail.com > wrote: 

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VMs are a great way to go depending on the job(s) you need to do. As it happens 
a lot of jobs (e.g. DNS) are not particularly compute intensive, so it's a 
great way to stretch resources. We find we can run 3 or 4 virtual machines on 
each physical machine. 
We used VMware from the get-go, but did not get many of the paid-for bells and 
whistles. VMware can become pretty expensive, where other solutions (e.g. 
Proxmox) has an advantage because of open source. 
The other consideration is containers, which can be thought of as VM-lite. 
Containers provide almost all of the advantages of VMs with a significantly 
lighter load on the hardware. As a result, you can load up more applications on 
less hardware. The leading contender in the container space is Kubernetes and 
it's also open source. 
Pick your poison with someone you know who can go over your requirements. 

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> 
On 9/27/2020 7:27 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: 

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I have decided I needed to get on the VM train. I know, I am only 15 years 
behind. Honestly, till now I haven't had a compelling reason. 


I want something that will at least do some monitoring of VM's, backups, 
snapshots, etc. Managed upgrading would be great but not as big a priority for 
me (at least I don't think so). 


Since I don't know what I don't know, I am asking the experienced crowd. 


It seems the two real choices are VMWare and Zen. Are there others? Commercial 
support seems nice, is it worth paying for? What I will run is important for 
sure. 


I spent a few hours last night and I more confused now than when I started. 






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