That might be decent if they let you manually set the channel it uses... On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 2:17 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
> Just saw this article: > > > https://www.theverge.com/2020/10/6/21504317/eero-for-service-providers-launch-isps-partnership-routers > > > > > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Sam Lambie > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 6, 2020 11:47 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik HAP Ac-Lite. Sucks for Wifi > > > > Our criteria is how many customers complain of poor range on the > HAP-AC-lites. I am interested in both frequencies. I have tested the > routers and yes, WiFi performance is marginal at best, and we have many > homes here in NM with adobe walls that just gobble up wifi signal. I have > tested the Audience in terms of range and throughput. Both are better, but > still are lacking for anything over 50mbps TCP. I would bet that I have not > configured the Audience correctly for max throughput. I have not added any > Mesh nodes to it yet. I wish the UI wasn't so fiddly to work with. The > documentation is fiddly as well... > > We have a Calix Gigaspire here for testing as well and it rocks in all > ways. But again, it's hard to give other folks our money if there is > something out there that we can manage and works. > > > > On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 10:18 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: > > What criteria are you using to evaluate WiFi performance? And are you > interested mainly in 2.4 or 5 GHz performance or both? > > > > Looking at the WiFi chipsets used in various Mikrotik routers, the highest > performance would seem to be the QCA9984 in the Audience model. High xmt > power and 4x4 MIMO. Normally used in U-NII-3 as the mesh backhaul channel, > while the IPQ4019 is used in U-NII-1 for fronthaul. But as a single > router, you could configure it as tri-band, and the upper band performance > with the QCA9984 would probably be pretty good. I will say that when used > in a mesh configuration, the backhaul channel is very robust. And that > approach does follow what many people recommend for a mesh or multiple APs > - don’t crank up the xmt power too high on the APs but make the backhaul > between them solid. > > > > Bottom line though, WiFi seems like Forrest Gump’s box of chocolates. And > if reality doesn’t agree with theory, reality wins. > > > > > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Jesse DuPont via AF > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 6, 2020 9:44 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>; Sam Lambie < > samtaos...@gmail.com> > *Cc:* Jesse DuPont <jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik HAP Ac-Lite. Sucks for Wifi > > > > Lee Elkasri at WLAN Mall said he had 7 in stock (this was last week), I > ordered 2. Now that you mention it, I haven't received shipping > notification... :) > > > > *Jesse DuPont* > > Owner / Network Architect > email: jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net > Celerity Networks LLC / Celerity Broadband LLC > Like us! facebook.com/celeritynetworksllc > > Like us! facebook.com/celeritybroadband > > On 10/6/20 8:20 AM, Sam Lambie wrote: > > I haven't found any HAP ac3's. Where did you get them Jesse? > > > > On Mon, Oct 5, 2020 at 6:28 PM Jesse DuPont <jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net> > wrote: > > For us, we include a router with the service so the extra value of the ac3 > (compared to the ac) and somewhat better (at least theoretical) reach > (compared to the ac2) puts it in a value slot we've struggled to find a > Mikrotik product to fill. We'll see how the tests go. > > > > *Jesse DuPont* > > Owner / Network Architect > email: jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net > Celerity Networks LLC / Celerity Broadband LLC > Like us! facebook.com/celeritynetworksllc > > Like us! facebook.com/celeritybroadband > > > > On 10/5/20 6:02 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > 2 chains 2.4GHz, 2 chains 5 GHz. hAP ac is 3 chains 2.4, 3 chains 5. Not > clear a few dB of antenna gain makes up for fewer chains. > > > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf > Of *Jesse DuPont > *Sent:* Monday, October 5, 2020 6:46 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> <af@af.afmug.com>; > Sam Lambie <samtaos...@gmail.com> <samtaos...@gmail.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik HAP Ac-Lite. Sucks for Wifi > > > > We just ordered a couple of the new hAP ac3's to test - looking forward to > seeing how they do. The external antenna should be helpful. > > > > *Jesse DuPont* > > Owner / Network Architect > email: jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net > Celerity Networks LLC / Celerity Broadband LLC > Like us! facebook.com/celeritynetworksllc > > Like us! facebook.com/celeritybroadband > > On 10/5/20 5:11 PM, Sam Lambie wrote: > > Thanks David. > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 5, 2020 at 2:02 PM David Coudron <david.coud...@advantenon.com> > wrote: > > We started with Hap ac lite and moved to the ac2. It is significantly > better. We had some ethernet port failures on the ac lite here and there, > and we have not seen that on the ac2 either. So it is a much better > option in our opinion. > > > > Thanks, > > > > David Coudron > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Sam Lambie > *Sent:* Monday, October 5, 2020 11:50 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> > *Subject:* [AFMUG] Mikrotik HAP Ac-Lite. Sucks for Wifi > > > > We have deploying the hap-ac-lite for over a year now and love the > customization that you can do with flashing the routers with a custom > configuration, graphing, and all the other things that Mikrotiks are > capable of. > > However, the WiFi sucks a big bag of d#$k. Does anyone have a > recommendation in the Mikrotik world for WiFi that is pretty affordable > that works? I ordered some HAP-AC2 but haven't received them. Specs show > almost a 7 db gain in 2.4 and 3 db gain in 5ghz, so maybe that will help > out. > > We are trying hard not to go the managed WiFi solution as of yet because > handing money over to someone else to manage something like WiFi is a > bummer. > > > > -- > > -- > *Sam Lambie* > Taosnet Wireless Tech. > 575-758-7598 Office > www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com> > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > > -- > > -- > *Sam Lambie* > Taosnet Wireless Tech. > 575-758-7598 Office > www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com> > > > > > > > > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > > -- > > -- > *Sam Lambie* > Taosnet Wireless Tech. > 575-758-7598 Office > www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com> > > > > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > > -- > > -- > *Sam Lambie* > Taosnet Wireless Tech. > 575-758-7598 Office > www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com> > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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