I think the most I've paid to add a second conduit was $2/ft.
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From: "Steven Kenney" <st...@wavedirect.org>
To: "af" <af@af.afmug.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2020 11:53:33 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] public-private fiber models
Great point if he's stuck not owning it. If they are doing underground with a
boring machine it may take 2x the time to put the extra conduit in. But usually
the companies doing the work will cut you a break in cost. Could even split the
costs of the installation so you have some fiber in ground in tandem.
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From: "chuck" <ch...@wbmfg.com>
To: "af" <af@af.afmug.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 4:15:46 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] public-private fiber models
If I was building it, I would try to convince them to let me add a duct to two
everywhere that I would own.
From: Adam Moffett
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 2:00 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] public-private fiber models
Sadly we're literally not allowed to own it. It's a USDA "ReConnect" grant. The
grant awardee is the muni. USDA will have a hand on the wheel and their
contract will literally not allow anyone but the awardee to own the network.
We could potentially buy the network afterwards with USDA approval, but I'm
told it's an uphill battle to get approved.
It might be possible to structure the agreement so the muni owns it on paper
and we have full control in reality. But whatever agreement we make has to be
approved by the USDA. I might have to get them on the horn and see what they'd
prefer.
On 10/13/2020 3:05 PM, Steven Kenney wrote:
It'll start out like most marriages. That should be all you need to know. I'd
keep an eye on the divorce rates :) In my case I have the perfect wife.. but
dealing with municipalities and government you can expect your wife to be a
"Karen".
I'd ensure you own the fiber and have access to work on the fiber. But
guarantee them X amount of bandwidth over X period of time, you'll provide the
labor and monitoring for all their connections. Get it in front of a lawyer. If
shit goes downhill you both will be covered. Just make sure any future projects
with them won't get squashed.
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From: "Adam Moffett" mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com
To: "af" mailto:af@af.afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 2:36:13 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] public-private fiber models
Anybody have direct experience with public-private partnerships as far
as what works and what doesn't?
I'm discussing with a county gov that has funding to build a network,
and they're open to almost anything. The nature of their funding
requires that they own the network. The nature of their knowledge level
is that they have no idea how to be the network owner. So essentially
it has to be a public-private partnership of some type.
My first thought was we could lease fiber miles from them and own the
electronics. They keep the lease payments in a fund which they use to
pay for repairs. We could do repairs and send them bills based on an
agreed upon fee schedule.
Naturally I'd prefer exclusive access and I'm sure they'd prefer open
access. I think my biggest argument in favor of exclusive access is
when you have a problem there's only one throat to choke.
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