If trump and his supporters believe all the lies he's been spewing since
Thursday, you have to get your head checked. Don't believe things without
evidence. Trust no one, only yourself and your ability to fact check what
people say.

Fact checking trump's statements since Tuesday show he has lied on nearly
everything about the election with no evidence to back up his claims. From
claiming he's won states that haven't been called, to saying he "WON THE
ELECTION BY ALOT" yesterday when he's losing the popular vote and electoral
vote. Then claiming all of these jurisdictions are "finding Biden votes"
when they're simply counting legal ballots already cast.

We're seeing mail-in ballots are more Democrat than republican votes which
makes sense that as they're counted, they'll favor Biden.

Then trump claims they're throwing out and blocking republican poll
watchers which has been proven FALSE in every case. In Detroit for example
there were over 200 poll watchers each for Dem and Rep, and nearly 70+
independent watchers. But as more people outside tried to enter the
building, they said no because there were already 470+ watchers inside plus
the press. They don't need to let in anymore people so then the
conspiracies started.

All I see is trump is a very sore loser trying to cast doubt on our free
election process. Aren't his supporters all about freedom and democracy? If
so, how does calling the election a fraud help that belief? This has been
the most fair and scrutinized election in history so as others stated,
there's no big conspiracy being pulled off when elections are run by all
parties, not just democrats.

Good luck in court trump. All you're doing is making these lawyers some
money and making a laughing stock out of yourself. Learn how to lose in a
fair election and don't incite violence and doubt on the election process.

Hopefully future republican candidates aren't celebrities with an ego like
trump's. We need a professional in this office who cares about every
American. Biden was not who I wanted to win the Dem primary but he did. I
would have preferred Klobuchar or Buttigieg as they both seemed moderate
and willing to work with everyone.

I'm hoping this Biden win resets congress to wanting to pass bipartisan
legislation instead of fighting with the president like they did with
Obama. Unfortunately, I still believe congress fought Obama on everything
because he's black. Now that an old white guy Democrat will be president
and they have a history with him, my hope is they'll work on deals and get
stuff done. I'm sick of the radical left AND right and prefer people meet
in the middle, close enough to shake hands. I don't think that's too much
to ask of our elected officials.

On Sun, Nov 8, 2020, 9:19 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

> Could be a made-up story, but somebody on the TV told of encountering
> people in other countries who could recite John McCain’s 2008 concession
> speech word for word because it had been taught as an example of how
> democracy works.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 8, 2020 8:58 AM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..
>
>
>
> It would be the King Kong of conspiracies to pull off. Getting hundreds of
> thousands of poll workers to stay quiet and do a coordinated effort in (I
> think) thousands of local polling places. It blows the mind how that could
> happen.
>
> And like you said, there have been 9 or 10 suits brought to court (so far)
> and every one has been tossed for lack of evidence.
>
>
>
> bp
>
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
> On 11/8/2020 6:53 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> In a case like this judges will work weekends and nights.  I will be
> surprised if a single case gets accepted.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
> On Nov 8, 2020, at 6:53 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> <af...@kwisp.com>
> wrote:
>
> 
>
> <image001.jpg>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf
> Of *justsumname
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 7, 2020 10:27 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..
>
>
>
> The declaration that Biden has won is premature.   This thing hasn't
> really gotten started yet.
>
> Judges don't hold court on the weekends.
>
>
>
> --
>
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 7, 2020 at 6:40 PM Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Yes good movie.
>
> More akin to today is Seven Days in May...March, Douglas, Lancaster...
>
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 7, 2020, 4:22 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>
> The Founding Fathers didn’t account for the rise of political parties,
> which came soon enough.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Electoral_College#Original_plan
>
>
>
> Somehow I’m reminded of the movie The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance.  Set
> in the fading days of the old west with territories becoming states and
> deciding who to elect as their representatives.  Should it be Jimmy Stewart
> the righteous lawyer, or Lee Marvin the outlaw gang leader?  The old
> fashioned idea that you sent the brightest and best educated person to
> Washington to represent you.  Hah!  Politicians are not held in great
> esteem today, and we would probably vote for Liberty Valance.  I assume
> everyone has seen the movie.  It’s an old John Ford western, in fact he
> shot it in B&W, but it’s a must see.  Look at the cast – Jimmy Stewart,
> John Wayne, Lee Marvin, Vera Miles, Andy Devine, Edmond O’Brien, John
> Caradine, Lee Van Cleef.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 7, 2020 4:46 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..
>
>
>
> The three-fifths compromise was enacted long before California existed.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-fifths_Compromise
>
>
>
> bp
>
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
> On 11/7/2020 12:54 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
>
> Uhhhh. No. The EC was created so that California has the same voice power
> as Rhode Island.
>
>
>
> On Nov 7, 2020, at 3:17 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com>
> <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Could have been over on Tuesday if we didn't have the silly Electoral
> College shenanigans; which actually evolved from the crazy slave is 3/5 of
> a person nonsense. Here we are ~~ 250 years later and we're still dealing
> with decisions we made about slaves.
>
>
>
> bp
>
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
> On 11/7/2020 11:15 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>
> We have spoken.
>
>
>
> Righteous Indignation
>
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