I think vote by mail and scan them as they arrive is the way to go.  That way 
when the polls close you have an immediate count.  

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Sunday, November 8, 2020 2:38 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

The whole punch card voting "system"  was doomed from the beginning. I remember 
using it when I lived in Santa Clara County  30 years ago or so. Even when you 
punched out a hole properly, the chads would sometime stick or hang on a corner.

For quite some time now, we've been using the paper ballots where you fill in 
the square or the circle.

I've also been registered as a permanent absentee for over a decade. When I 
voted (almost a month ago now), we filled out our ballots at the kitchen 
counter, and took them to a drop box the next day when we were running errands 
in town. The actual act of "voting" (if you want to call it that) took less 
than 1 minute as we just dropped the ballots off at one of dozens of drop boxes 
all over the county.Our county has (IIRC) 39 drop boxes for a population of ~~ 
750,000, or about 1 drop box for every 20,000 people. 


Pennsylvania still hasn't started counting the late arrival absentee ballots. 
All of the ones they've counted so far arrived before November 3, but for 
reasons I don't understand were not allowed to be counted until after the 
day-of voting. From the things I've read, there are only about 85,000 of them, 
and they are unlikely to do anything but extend Biden's cushion.

I (for one) would be in favor of uniform voting/counting standards. Perhaps it 
would be a violation of state's rights, but on the other hand, there would be a 
lot less confusion when the time for voting comes around.



bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>On 11/8/2020 11:08 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

  Stop the vote in Pennsylvania but keep counting in Arizona.  It’s a Maxwell’s 
Demon approach.  Open the door when it helps me, close the door when it helps 
the other guy.

   

  That’s probably why the Supremes stopped the recounts in Bush v Gore, the 
Gore camp wanted to keep looking for errors but only in the counties where they 
thought it would help them.  But also the votes had already been counted (and 
recounted).  And there was the original Florida Man, some guy named Hanging 
Chad?  And the phone call and the retraction.

   

  Democrats to this day take it as gospel that Gore was robbed.  That does not 
bode well for half the country moving on from this election.

   

   

  From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com On Behalf Of Bill Prince
  Sent: Sunday, November 8, 2020 12:02 PM
  To: af@af.afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

   

  In Michigan we're demanding a recount. In Wisconsin we're demanding a 
decount. In Georgia it's opposites day.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LmFVEi5Jd0

bp<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>On 11/7/2020 8:27 PM, justsumname wrote:

    The declaration that Biden has won is premature.   This thing hasn't really 
gotten started yet. 

    Judges don't hold court on the weekends.

     

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    On Sat, Nov 7, 2020 at 6:40 PM Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

      Yes good movie.  

      More akin to today is Seven Days in May...March, Douglas, Lancaster...

       

      On Sat, Nov 7, 2020, 4:22 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

        The Founding Fathers didn’t account for the rise of political parties, 
which came soon enough.

        
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Electoral_College#Original_plan

         

        Somehow I’m reminded of the movie The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance.  
Set in the fading days of the old west with territories becoming states and 
deciding who to elect as their representatives.  Should it be Jimmy Stewart the 
righteous lawyer, or Lee Marvin the outlaw gang leader?  The old fashioned idea 
that you sent the brightest and best educated person to Washington to represent 
you.  Hah!  Politicians are not held in great esteem today, and we would 
probably vote for Liberty Valance.  I assume everyone has seen the movie.  It’s 
an old John Ford western, in fact he shot it in B&W, but it’s a must see.  Look 
at the cast – Jimmy Stewart, John Wayne, Lee Marvin, Vera Miles, Andy Devine, 
Edmond O’Brien, John Caradine, Lee Van Cleef.

         

         

        From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Bill Prince
        Sent: Saturday, November 7, 2020 4:46 PM
        To: af@af.afmug.com
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

         

        The three-fifths compromise was enacted long before California existed.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-fifths_Compromise

 bp<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>On 11/7/2020 12:54 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:

          Uhhhh. No. The EC was created so that California has the same voice 
power as Rhode Island. 

           

            On Nov 7, 2020, at 3:17 PM, Bill Prince mailto:part15...@gmail.com 
wrote:

             

            Could have been over on Tuesday if we didn't have the silly 
Electoral College shenanigans; which actually evolved from the crazy slave is 
3/5 of a person nonsense. Here we are ~~ 250 years later and we're still 
dealing with decisions we made about slaves.

             

bp<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>On 11/7/2020 11:15 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

              We have spoken. 

               

              Righteous Indignation

               

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