Running the mail server is easy. Continually managing the server is hard. Hacked customer accounts, SMTP Relays, It's always 'YOUR' fault that they either cannot receive an email from a friend, or cannot send an email to that friend. And the dreaded walking a customer through setting up their email client.

I.E. AOL randomly just dumps mail from me, their servers accept it, but never deliver it. I have no idea why, or any rhyme or reason to it. But it's MY fault when a customer can't send to their friend at AOL. And now I'm spending time looking through logs etc. That time all adds up.

On 11/18/2020 9:34 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
I don't know why people think it's difficult.



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*From: *"Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
*To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
*Sent: *Tuesday, November 17, 2020 1:10:14 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] FW: OT windows update issues

Or so he thinks. I hope it works out that way. it always seemed really cheap to run a mail server, until you had to do it right. Then it came to be very expensive. I surrendered and went to GMail. To each his own though. I know you likely have a lot smarter people than me around so they will likely handle it with no issue.

On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 12:40 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote:

    Cost. We have lots of accounts on it and lists and all kinds of
    other things.  We put in our own email server concurrent with a
    new domain.  So it will save a significant amount of money for us.

    *From:*Darin Steffl [mailto:darin.ste...@mnwifi.com
    <mailto:darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>]
    *Sent:* Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:31 AM
    *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com
    <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
    *Cc:* Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com <mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com>>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FW: OT windows update issues

    Why are you leaving Gmail? There's nothing better unless you need
    to live in the Microsoft ecosystem then you have office 365.

    We love Google apps for business and I use it for personal email
    too. They never let me down.

    On Tue, Nov 17, 2020, 11:59 AM Chuck McCown via AF
    <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote:

        On top of all of this, we are migrating away from gmail
        today.  PITA

        *From:* Chuck McCown [mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com
        <mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com>]
        *Sent:* Tuesday, November 17, 2020 10:46 AM
        *To:* af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
        *Subject:* OT windows update issues

        So, today it appears that my Windows Live Mail database is
        corrupt. Can only see headers.  So switching to outlook but
        that is painful.

        I rolled back the windows update that happened last night but
        still dead WLM… sob…

Have resisted outlook for years. Few times it would be nice. When someone sends a meeting or contact at least I can read it
        without having to use a text editor and parsing through the
        complex crap…

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