That remains to be seen. It looks like it's going to be permanent
unlicensed spectrum, but it sounds like there could still be some
restrictions on outdoor use.

On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 12:47 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> so renewable STA or limited time use?
>
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 12:40 PM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> This is the same STA spectrum... this is making it permanent, rather than
>> STA (but it looks like only for indoor use at this point).
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 12:28 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> this is the same STA spectrum, or a new set?
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 10:11 AM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> So, since it sounds like they haven't finalized rules for outdoor use
>>>> yet, I'm guessing those of us with STAs will probably just need to keep
>>>> asking for extensions, for the time being?
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 8:54 AM Josh Luthman <
>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> WISPA shared how to do this in the beginning of the year, around March
>>>>> I think.  A handful of WISPs got this 45 MHz.  They're talking about it on
>>>>> the mailing lists yesterday and today again.
>>>>>
>>>>> The WISPA lists are still active.  If you haven't seen anything since
>>>>> then I'd also guess your subscriptions were removed.  Feel free to sign
>>>>> back up or reach out to the admins.
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 11:17 PM Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hopefully wispa will share the steps to take to get this permanent
>>>>>> STA. This is very exciting!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sidenote, are the wispa mailing lists still a thing? I used to get
>>>>>> lots of emails but I don't recall seeing any for awhile now. Our 
>>>>>> membership
>>>>>> expired for a few weeks and I renewed it but maybe that cleared my
>>>>>> subscriptions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2020, 6:38 PM Peter Kranz via AF <af@af.afmug.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I’m guessing the STA process.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Peter Kranz
>>>>>>> www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/>
>>>>>>> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
>>>>>>> Mobile: 510-207-0000
>>>>>>> pkr...@unwiredltd.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* Matt Hoppes <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 18, 2020 4:37 PM
>>>>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>>>>>>> *Cc:* Peter Kranz <pkr...@unwiredltd.com>
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 5.850-5.925Ghz immediately available for
>>>>>>> indoor use, outdoor use with approval
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What is this conditional basis?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 18, 2020, at 7:35 PM, Peter Kranz via AF <af@af.afmug.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Looks like we may have 45Mhz of additional frequencies to use pretty
>>>>>>> soon.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ““Full-power indoor unlicensed operations" are authorized
>>>>>>> immediately, while "outdoor unlicensed use" will be allowed "on a
>>>>>>> coordinated basis under certain circumstances," the FCC said.”
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/11/fcc-adds-45mhz-to-wi-fi-promising-supersize-networks-on-5ghz-band/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Peter Kranz
>>>>>>> www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/>
>>>>>>> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
>>>>>>> Mobile: 510-207-0000
>>>>>>> pkr...@unwiredltd.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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