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Every politician SHOULD break from their party if
they feel a different way about an issue. I don't
believe in "falling in line" for everything.
Good people think for themselves, not what their party's
platform is.
I'm fiscally a Republican but for human rights and
equality, I'm a Democrat.
Republicans have a very hard time showing they care
about anyone other than white men. They need to stop
treating women, blacks, gays, trans, different people as
anything less than. And for gosh sake, stop trying to
bring religion into Government. Have they not heard of
separation of church and state?!?! Abortion should not
be a federal government issue.
On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 11:32 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
wrote:
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Mitt Romney is apparently
willing to split from his party when he feels
strongly about something. Whether that means
he's a "RINO" or it means he has personal
integrity seems to be a matter of opinion. I'm
trying to think of a Democratic legislator who
would break with party lines to agree with a
Republican position on something.....coming up
blank. Is Romney a Unicorn in that respect?
On 11/20/2020 12:22 PM, Robert wrote:
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It would have been a
really tough choice between Mitt and
Biden for me. Probably would have
crossed to Mitt. Not that I am
necessarily a democrat but I really
don't like what the republican congress
has become besides Mitt.
On 11/20/20 9:15 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
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I don't think
anyone really knows for sure
what he's worth, and that's part
of how it's so easy to build
different narratives about it.
He seems to have received around
$400 million from his parents.
About a million from a trust
fund and the rest from a variety
of revenue streams they set up
for him. If he's worth $2.5
billion today, that would imply
something like 5% annual growth.
That's not an epic failure, but
it's pretty modest. Except
guesses about his net worth
range from $700mil to $7billion,
and even he is inconsistent in
what he says about it. He's
somewhere from terrible, to ok,
to really good and everyone gets
to fill in the blanks with their
own version.
I don't hate him, but I am
embarrassed of him. Every time
I hear him speak, something
unbelievable comes out. His
behavior before and during his
presidency demonstrates deep
moral failings. His messaging
seems to be about symbolic
emotional cues without any
regard to factuality (aka
bullshitting). I don't blame
anybody for voting for him in
2016. When it was Hillary
Clinton against an unknown
outsider, it's easy to say
"let's give this outsider a
shot." I think at this point
he's made it very clear that he
doesn't know what to do with his
office.
I don't think Biden was
anybody's first choice either,
but if it comes to the lesser of
evils then Biden seems the
lesser.
-Adam
On 11/20/2020 10:47 AM, Mark -
Myakka Technologies wrote:
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Robert,
You guys are right. He
is the Jacques Clouseau
of the business world.
Just fumbling and
bumbling his way for the
past 40 years. No one
has caught on to his
secret. He is just an
idiot that luckily is
able to get bigger
idiots to back him. He
has been cheating the
IRS for years and years.
Luckily for the IRS,
his tax returns will be
released and all the
armchair accounts will
be able to help the IRS
do a proper audit.
I understand your pure
hatred of him. He is
not the most likable
person. But, please he
is a business man. We
have no idea what his
books look like or where
his loans are. He has
undertaken some risky
investments and deals
over the years. Some
work, some don't, it is
business. I guess
successful is a relative
term.
--
Best regards,
Mark
mailto:m...@mailmt.com
Myakka
Technologies, Inc.
www.Myakka.com
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Friday, November 20,
2020, 10:00:21 AM, you
wrote:
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Which
would be the
perfect example
of the
propaganda that
has propped him
up for the last
40 years. Well
now the chickens
will come home
to roost. He
has a billion
dollars of loans
to renegotiate (
gee guess why he
wants to be in
charge of the
party, access to
truckloads of
cash ) and the
IRS to convince
that his write
offs were real
now that they
are going to go
under public
review.. Could
be
interesting...
On 11/20/20 6:25
AM, Ken Hohhof
wrote:
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Re:
[AFMUG] OT: this press
conference
Trump
was never a successful
businessman, that is a
myth. Mitt yes,
Donald no.
From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com>
On
Behalf Of Mark -
Myakka Technologies
Sent: Friday,
November 20, 2020 8:03
AM
To: AnimalFarm
Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject:
Re: [AFMUG] OT: this
press conference
Darin,
Trump was not
presidential material,
that is a fact. He is
a businessman not a
politician. He had no
idea on how government
worked. He was going
in to the job with an
outsiders view of
politics. He crashed
the Washington wedding
and they didn't like
it. He brought his
friends and family.
The man didn't stand
a chance. The left
started calling for
impeachment before he
was inaugurated. Hell
some of them even made
a big stink that they
weren't even going to
show for his
inauguration being he
was illegitimate.
Frankly the right was
no help at the
beginning either, they
didn't support him.
He surrounded himself
with a bunch of
outsiders that didn't
know the unwritten
rules of Washington.
The media does lean
left. They were
embarrassed, they told
us for months Hillary
was going to be the
next President. They
hate Trump and Trump
hates them. Once the
media figured out how
to push his buttons,
it was just a big game
for them.
He was a lone wolf
with no support at
all. Seemed like
everyone was against
him, except for the
people that voted for
him.
Let's assume he was
the worst president
ever, one soul away
from being the devil
himself. Seems like
we survived. Almost
75M people voted to
keep him in office.
You can dismiss that
as cult or a bunch of
uneducated rednecks,
but is is still 75M
people. Contrary to
popular belief, he did
do some good things.
HBC got multi-year
funding. He didn't
start any new wars.
I was listening to a
Obama doing an
interview yesterday.
He was talking about
the hard time he had
in office with the
birther stuff. He
made a very
interesting comment.
He said that some
people didn't know
him. If they only
listened to FOX news,
they only knew a
caricature of him.
The exact same thing
can be said about
Trump.
--
Best regards,
Mark
mailto:m...@mailmt.com
Myakka
Technologies, Inc.
www.Myakka.com
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Thursday, November 19,
2020, 11:58:10 PM, you
wrote:
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The
only reason the
media ripped on
trump is because
he was a
disgrace to the
high office of
President. He
made a joke of
our country. He
bullied,
tweeted, and
lied for his
entire term.
If a Democrat
acted the same
way trump did, I
would fully
expect all news
to rip on them
too. Trump
further divided
our country,
shit on our
allies, and
shared hateful
conspiracy
theories.
He craves
attention,
refuses to lose,
and any time he
tried to do
something good
he would ruin it
with some tweet.
He fired more
staff than any
other president
in history. He's
paranoid, rude,
and holds
grudges.
He shows no
empathy for
anyone. He
doesn't show
compassion. He
doesn't show
love. He doesn't
forgive. He
doesn't forget.
He doesn't lead.
He never talks
about his
family. He
expects loyalty
and for people
to bend the
knee.
I've never been
more embarrassed
for our country
when he was
elected. We
needed a
politician in
office, not a
celebrity. He
rocked the boat
but not in a
good way.
Give me a stable
republican and I
may vote for
them if they
care about every
American, not
just their base.
Sidenote: I was
grocery shopping
tonight and
someone was
wearing a shirt
that said: Trump
2020. FUCK YOUR
FEELINGS
Real classy
trump supporter.
Wearing a shirt
like that at our
local Hyvee with
kids and
families
shopping. I'm
embarrassed
people think
it's ok to wear
things like
that. 1st
amendment allows
them to but it's
still
disrespectful.
On Thu, Nov 19,
2020, 10:20 PM
Mark - Myakka
Technologies
<m...@mailmt.com>
wrote:
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It doesn't matter who won, the
outcome is the
same. All of
us should have
been
intelligent
enough to
predict this.
The only way
this would
have ended
well for the
country would
have been a
landslide for
Biden. Not
saying Biden
is good for
the country,
but it was the
only chance we
may have had
not to deal
with this
bullshit.
If Trump won
in a
landslide,
mainstream
media would
just continue
with the
non-stop
bashing for
another four
years. He
would have
been declared
an
illegitimate
president
again. The
story would be
the same as
last time
"look at the
polls, no way
he could have
won, must of
cheated". We
would be
watching
cities burn
right now.
If roles were
reversed and
Trump had the
slim lead, the
Biden camp
would be doing
the same thing
the Trump camp
is doing now.
Do you really
think Biden
would have
conceded. The
only
difference, is
the mainstream
media would
have been
digging deep
to find each
and every
"fake" vote
for Trump.
They would be
working
overtime.
Every story
would be
assumed true
and not
debated. No
winner would
be declared
yet.
When the
counting is
done, Trump
will end up
with almost
75M votes.
That is more
that 10M more
than Hillary
got in 2016.
About 12M
more people
voted for
Trump this
time around.
More
minorities
voted for
Trump this
time around.
Did you really
think Trump's
base would
just accept
the losing
outcome? Did
you really
think Biden's
base would
have accepted
a losing
outcome? On
the plus side
the scales
tipped to the
left, so at
least we
aren't seeing
the riots.
This election
will never be
accepted by
half the
country, just
like the last
election was
never accepted
by half the
country. Only
difference is
at least on
the nightly
news I won't
have to listen
to 100% Trump
bashing day in
and day out
trying to
scare me
straight. It
was getting
depressing.
Everything
was bad news.
I swear if
Trump found
the cure for
cancer, it
would have
been spun as
bad news.
Come February,
everything
will be
reported as
unicorns and
rainbows.
Life in the
old USA will
be great.
There will be
no issues.
Fox News will
move right
center, I
don't think
they will be
as hard on
Biden as CNN
was on Trump.
Social media
will be where
all the Trump
supports go.
But they will
be banned form
the main sites
and live on
the fringe.
The left has
the ball. All
these problems
that have been
drilled into
our heads for
the past 4
years are now
their issue to
fix. They
have 2 years
to convince us
they can do a
better job.
Both the
house and
senate
majorities are
so thin,
either one can
flip in two
years.
Finally, it
really doesn't
matter. Our
daily lives
will not
change that
much. Sure
we'll probably
have to deal
with Net
Neutrality
again. Maybe
some type of
national tax
on Internet
service is in
the future.
Maybe another
healthcare
shake up.
Maybe there
will be some
half-assed
legislation on
gun control or
immigration,
but no real
fix. The
precedent was
set in the
last 4 years,
every
executive
action will be
taken to
court.
But we'll
adapt and
continue
moving on. We
always do.
--
Best regards,
Mark
mailto:m...@mailmt.com
Myakka Technologies, Inc.
www.Myakka.com
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Thursday,
November 19,
2020, 10:23:07
PM, you wrote:
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Steve,
https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/wayne-circuit-judge-dismisses-lawsuit-against-city-of-detroit-alleging-election-fraud
Please read this article and the
judge's 13
page ruling on
what you claim
is fraud. You
and trump have
been shot down
again.
Judge's are
denying these
suits left and
right, some of
them getting
quite heated
in their
opinions
suggesting
they shouldn't
even be
wasting their
breath on
these baseless
claims.
On Thu, Nov
19, 2020, 9:01
PM Steve Jones
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:
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not
going to play
your game. I
watched the
mutt put up
the cardboard
and stand
there like a
gimp. everyone
watched when
they tried to
serve the
judges order
and were still
denied access,
facts are
simply that,
facts.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/05/media/detroit-windows-covered-ballots-vote-center/index.html
except the "protesters" were
poll watcher,
your team cant
even lie well
https://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2020/11/05/philadelphia-court-decision-poll-watchers-now-allowed-within-6-feet-of-ballot-counting-at-pennsylvania-convention-center/
your kind will say that
binoculars are
good enough.
odd that
judges ruled
on something
that didnt
happen, are
you saying the
judges lied?
just because
you dont want
it to be true
doesnt make
something
"debunked".
Just admit
there were
issues,
present
solutions. 4
years spent
pushing a
russian
narrative that
was literally
debunked and
always offered
without
evidence
(hint, there
was none).
pick a single
narrative and
run with said
narrative,
across the
board. much
like the elder
cruelty of
putting rudy
and joe in the
spotlight
On Thu, Nov
19, 2020 at
8:21 PM Darin
Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>
wrote:
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Steve,
Cite your
sources that
poll watchers
weren't
allowed to
observe. You
won't be able
to because in
every case so
far, there
have been poll
watchers
inside
watching the
count in every
precinct.
You only saw
some angry
trump
supporters
standing
outside in
Detroit trying
to get in when
there were
already 200+
republic poll
watchers
already
inside. They
put up
cardboard
because the
people outside
were being
distracting.
Every court
filing that
has been filed
so far has
proven that
poll watchers
were not kept
out. Only
"extras" that
showed up were
blocked
because you
don't need any
more inside a
building than
already
existed.
On Thu, Nov
19, 2020, 8:12
PM Bill Prince
<part15...@gmail.com>
wrote:
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Oh sure. We are now using some
schmoe in a
stocking cap
for "news"?
Part of the
reason we are
in the
situation we
are in is that
we pay more
attention to
clowns than
they deserve.
--
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On Thu, Nov
19, 2020 at
4:21 PM
justsumname
<unixday...@gmail.com>
wrote:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBdfxJdlvcE
It is getting interesting, and
this election
thing is still
far from over.
--
On Thu, Nov
19, 2020 at
2:45 PM Steve
Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:
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lol,
they just
elected a guy
president with
the same
cruelty, so
thats not
really much of
a thing
anymore
On Thu, Nov
19, 2020 at
1:43 PM Ken
Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com>
wrote:
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It’s
cruel of
people to keep
putting Rudy
in the public
eye when
clearly he’s
not all there
anymore, I
don’t know if
it’s dementia
or what, but
he needs to be
sitting on a
porch
somewhere
playing
checkers, not
making a fool
of himself for
the world to
see. Of
course he’s
always been a
little off,
look at his
marriage
history. I
assume since
he was a
lawyer and
mayor he
wasn’t always
like this. Or
maybe he was.
Again, the
marriage
history.
From:
AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On
Behalf Of Steve
Jones
Sent:
Thursday,
November 19,
2020 12:46 PM
To:
AnimalFarm
Microwave
Users Group
<af@af.afmug.com>
Subject:
Re: [AFMUG]
OT: this press
conference
I dont know
what happened
to that guy.
hopefully when
this is said
and done we go
the way of
canada on
electronic
voting. then
we put cameras
recording the
count tables.
Golden and no
need for
recounts or
weird people
like this team
of lunatics
having crazy
press
conferences. I
think the
media sent
their interns
instead of
reporters
On Thu, Nov
19, 2020 at
12:35 PM Adam
Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
wrote:
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