*pipe up and prove me right.

Is what I meant to say.


On 12/14/2020 12:17 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:

If they heard every argument and /then/ dismissed it, isn't that just a different kind of political messaging? Expedience mattered in this case because the EC vote was imminent.

I realize there are nutters who will rationalize the outcome as "we were right, but the court didn't want to hear it because of a technicality."  But if they went all the way through with it the same people would come up with some other reasoning why they actually were right.  There are still people who insist Nixon was framed, and people still think Iraq had functional WMD's. Forevermore there will be people who believe Donald Trump actually won the 2020 election, and nothing the court says will ever change their minds.  Losing in court >50 times didn't matter to them, why would one more?

I'm ready for "justsumname" to pipe and prove me right.


On 12/14/2020 11:55 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
That's exactly why the supreme court needed to do their job and hear it. Then smack it down, I don't like the supreme court making decisions out of political expedience as they did here (hint the last 3). Hell, these arent even states actually at each other, its elected state officials. Scotus needed to put case law with a ruling (this wasnt a ruling) in the books.

There will be violence that could have been avoided. Outcome of the "case" would have been the same either way.


On Mon, Dec 14, 2020, 7:24 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    There's a school of thought that since their jurisdiction is
    exclusive, the Supreme Court has an obligation to hear /any/ case
    a state brings no matter how flawed it might be.  Their feeling
    is that since there's no higher power to appeal to, that they
    /have /to hear the case so that it gets heard.  Thomas and Alito
    are in that school of thought, and that's why they expressed the
    opinion they did.

    My reading of it is that the only disagreement was whether to
    tell Texas to go away before or after they're allowed to file
    their complaints.  Either way, the court unanimously told Texas
    to pound sand.  The only way this is unclear is if someone
    willfully interprets it that way.  If someone is inclined it
    interpret it that way, then they would have been unhappy with any
    outcome. There was absolutely zero chance that the Supreme Court
    of the US would overturn one state's election at the behest of
    another.  Especially based on the argument that "their election
    processes hurt us."  If they did that, then similar suits would
    happen every 4 years henceforth.


    On 12/12/2020 10:31 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
    We need to have scotus do their damn job and get case law. If
    they keep punting for politics it will get stupid. This team
    when one snaps out you dont get some cross dresser popping
    through a crowd to bike lock someone and scurrying off, you get
    Oklahoma city. They need to shut the shit down or pay the cost
    of the product they purchased.

    On Sat, Dec 12, 2020, 6:24 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com
    <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:

        Deep within this troll, the force runs.


        bp
        <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

        On 12/12/2020 4:10 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

        Yes, thank you.

        I don’t know what was more bizarre, that music video, or
        Chuck being the one who sent it.  Who knew.

        *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com>
        <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
        *Sent:* Saturday, December 12, 2020 5:55 PM
        *To:* af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

        bp
        <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

        On 12/12/2020 2:55 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

            Is there a mind blown emoji?

            -----Original Message-----

            From: AF<af-boun...@af.afmug.com>  <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> 
 On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF

            Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2020 4:30 PM

            To:af@af.afmug.com  <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>

            Cc: Chuck McCown<ch...@go-mtc.com>  <mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com>

            Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

            https://youtu.be/yModCU1OVHY  <https://youtu.be/yModCU1OVHY>

            -----Original Message-----

            From: Bill Prince

            Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2020 3:28 PM

            To:af@af.afmug.com  <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>

            Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

            First place I heard it was from Molly Wood on Make Me Smart:

            https://twitter.com/mollywood/status/1169705055194247168?lang=en  
<https://twitter.com/mollywood/status/1169705055194247168?lang=en>

            <https://twitter.com/mollywood/status/1169705055194247168?lang=en>  
<https://twitter.com/mollywood/status/1169705055194247168?lang=en>

            bp

            <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

            On 12/12/2020 12:03 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

                I was not familiar with the term banana-pants.  A Google search 
yields

                lots of results, mostly photos of banana pants, as well as some 
songs,

                none of which shed much light on the subject for me.  I assume 
it

                means cra-cra?

                -----Original Message-----

                From: AF<af-boun...@af.afmug.com>  
<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>  On Behalf Of Robert Andrews

                Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2020 1:42 PM

                To:af@af.afmug.com  <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>

                Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

                This was similar to how the south leaders hauled all the regular

                people into the civil war.  Yes they did a good job stirring 
things up

                before.

                On 12/12/2020 11:19 AM, Bill Prince wrote:

                    The people who should really be looking at this are the 
citizens in

                    the states who think it's appropriate for their AG to sue 
another

                    state's election results.

                    The suit was what I would call banana-pants.

                    bp

                    <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

                    On 12/11/2020 4:19 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

                        All these craven lackeys got a big fuck you from the 
SCOTUS...

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