Just because you didn't understand the issue doesn't prove that you
weren't on the grassy knoll with Ken and Bill... we've clearly
established that you were alive at the time, and therefore could have
been.
On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 3:40 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com
<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote:
I remember all the grups being upset about Kennedy, but I didn’t
understand the issue.
*From:* James Howard
*Sent:* Monday, December 14, 2020 2:35 PM
*To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots
Well…… that is a lifelong issue for some people.
*From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via AF
*Sent:* Monday, December 14, 2020 3:15 PM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
*Cc:* Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com <mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com>>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots
I was still probably crapping in my pants back then.
*From:*Bill Prince
*Sent:*Monday, December 14, 2020 1:05 PM
*To:*af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots
I'm close to the same age as Ken, and I saw him on the garssy knoll.
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 12/14/2020 12:01 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
One case is actually still in court.
In one case in Pennsylvania they were granted a court order
saying they had to allow observers closer than 6 feet, but
they lost that that one on appeal.
Roughly 50 other cases were dismissed. Some were due to lack
of standing, some because the court felt it couldn't provide
the relief being asked for, some for being moot, some because
the evidence was insufficient.
In the famous "Release the Kraken" case, the judge responded
that you have affidavits from people swearing that they
believe something could have happened, not saying they
actually saw something. Belief that something could have
happened is not evidence that it did. Like I believe Ken
Hohhof is old enough to be the second gunman on the grassy
knoll. I could swear to that in an affidavit, but that's not
evidence that he shot JFK.
On 12/14/2020 2:52 PM, Chuck Macenski wrote:
Didn't they go to court in the states and lose?
On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 12:45 PM Steve Jones
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
" I think the argument your making (and correct me if
I'm wrong) is that they won't feel like they really
lost unless they get to make their arguments in a
courtroom and THEN lose. I'm saying they'll feel like
they didn't really lose no matter what,"
Yes. but its separating the Tim McVeighs from the
Housewife Bettys.
So you have something like 80 percent of the trump
voters thinking he was robbed (oddly enough a CNN poll
showed 10 percent of democrat voters agreeing). Of
that 80 percent, there probably 25 percent youre not
going to get to ever listen to anything, theyre the
ones who know alex jones is garbage but still listen
to him, they also believe theres a pizza joint selling
child sex slaves to rich people, theyre as bad as the
cult of left 25 percent that still believe the russian
collusion delusion. The remaining 55 percent will
accept an actual case result from supreme court, as
much as most of us dont care for unelected officials
making decisions, the constitution matters. the
biggest problem is that as we speak, the ilk of alex
jones are onboarding them left and right. It doesnt
help what West, who by most measures is respected
(aside from bigot libs who call him Tom, but thats a
whole other bucket of hypocrisy) is talking openly
about constitutional secession, not new speak, but
given the climate, a very bloody prospect. He would
tone down with a legitimate, constitutional ruling.
Without it, the scotus is literally saying there is no
recourse against a percieved wrong in the united
states, at which point, the 2A becomes active.
Like it or not, this is what it is.
Like I said, the ilk of mcveigh, weather underground,
black liberation army, ted Kaczynski, theyre all going
to do what they do, regardless
I dont personally care either way, Ill survive the two
years biden is a half threat, Im not opposed to
reeducation being not illegal for a period either. I
just cant tolerate coawardice at the supreme court
(the 3 last placements), and I dont like living in
grey areas and I dont like the likes of alex jones
being given credibility to my mother.
On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 12:15 PM Adam Moffett
<dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
This case was dismissed for lack of standing.
Other cases were dismissed for a variety of
reasons including the evidence being specious or
deficient. That's losing. All of that is losing.
If it was Steve Jones vs McCown Tech and it was
dismissed then you'd say you lost. There'd be no
doubt in your mind.
I think the argument your making (and correct me
if I'm wrong) is that they won't feel like they
really lost unless they get to make their
arguments in a courtroom and THEN lose. I'm saying
they'll feel like they didn't really lose no
matter what, and a courtroom just gives them
another pulpit to preach from. If the evidence
sucks, the arguments are illogical, and/or they're
asking for relief that the court can't give them,
then dismissing is the right move.
On 12/14/2020 12:34 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
Thats the issue, they havent "lost in court"
they never went to court. The court
responsible for hearing it. No one is saying
hear every case, but cases of national
importance and with immense national
consequence need not ever be punted. The vast
majority of pro 2A people understand the 2a
isnt there for hunting game adn the lack of
action on scotus part will result in action
elsewhere. There will be blood over this, and
its not necessary. Once scotus actually ruled
after hearing the case, most would move on.
The tim mcveighs out there are building their
bombs regardless. But Jane Q would probably go
back to canning beets. Instead right now shes
listening to alex jones (why does covid take
charlie pride, but not alex jones, somebody
explain this)
On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 11:18 AM Adam Moffett
<dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
If they heard every argument and /then/
dismissed it, isn't that just a different
kind of political messaging? Expedience
mattered in this case because the EC vote
was imminent.
I realize there are nutters who will
rationalize the outcome as "we were right,
but the court didn't want to hear it
because of a technicality." But if they
went all the way through with it the same
people would come up with some other
reasoning why they actually were right.
There are still people who insist Nixon
was framed, and people still think Iraq
had functional WMD's. Forevermore there
will be people who believe Donald Trump
actually won the 2020 election, and
nothing the court says will ever change
their minds. Losing in court >50 times
didn't matter to them, why would one more?
I'm ready for "justsumname" to pipe and
prove me right.
On 12/14/2020 11:55 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
That's exactly why the supreme court
needed to do their job and hear it.
Then smack it down, I don't like the
supreme court making decisions out of
political expedience as they did here
(hint the last 3). Hell, these arent
even states actually at each other,
its elected state officials. Scotus
needed to put case law with a ruling
(this wasnt a ruling) in the books.
There will be violence that could have
been avoided. Outcome of the "case"
would have been the same either way.
On Mon, Dec 14, 2020, 7:24 AM Adam
Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
There's a school of thought that
since their jurisdiction is
exclusive, the Supreme Court has
an obligation to hear /any/ case a
state brings no matter how flawed
it might be. Their feeling is that
since there's no higher power to
appeal to, that they /have /to
hear the case so that it gets
heard. Thomas and Alito are in
that school of thought, and that's
why they expressed the opinion
they did.
My reading of it is that the only
disagreement was whether to tell
Texas to go away before or after
they're allowed to file their
complaints. Either way, the court
unanimously told Texas to pound
sand. The only way this is unclear
is if someone willfully interprets
it that way. If someone is
inclined it interpret it that way,
then they would have been unhappy
with any outcome. There was
absolutely zero chance that the
Supreme Court of the US would
overturn one state's election at
the behest of another. Especially
based on the argument that "their
election processes hurt us." If
they did that, then similar suits
would happen every 4 years henceforth.
On 12/12/2020 10:31 PM, Steve
Jones wrote:
We need to have scotus do
their damn job and get case
law. If they keep punting for
politics it will get stupid.
This team when one snaps out
you dont get some cross
dresser popping through a
crowd to bike lock someone and
scurrying off, you get
Oklahoma city. They need to
shut the shit down or pay the
cost of the product they
purchased.
On Sat, Dec 12, 2020, 6:24 PM
Bill Prince
<part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
Deep within this troll,
the force runs.
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 12/12/2020 4:10 PM, Ken
Hohhof wrote:
Yes, thank you.
I don’t know what was
more bizarre, that
music video, or Chuck
being the one who sent
it. Who knew.
*From:*AF
mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com
*On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
*Sent:* Saturday,
December 12, 2020 5:55 PM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG]
OT: Not all Texans are
idiots
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 12/12/2020 2:55 PM,
Ken Hohhof wrote:
Is there a mind
blown emoji?
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-----Original
Message-----
From: Bill Prince
Sent: Saturday,
December 12, 2020
3:28 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re:
[AFMUG] OT: Not
all Texans are idiots
First place I
heard it was from
Molly Wood on Make
Me Smart:
https://twitter.com/mollywood/status/1169705055194247168?lang=en
<https://twitter.com/mollywood/status/1169705055194247168?lang=en>
<https://twitter.com/mollywood/status/1169705055194247168?lang=en>
<https://twitter.com/mollywood/status/1169705055194247168?lang=en>
bp
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On 12/12/2020
12:03 PM, Ken
Hohhof wrote:
I was not
familiar with
the term
banana-pants.
A Google
search yields
lots of
results,
mostly photos
of banana
pants, as well
as some songs,
none of which
shed much
light on the
subject for
me. I assume it
means cra-cra?
-----Original
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From: AF
mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com
On Behalf Of
Robert Andrews
Sent:
Saturday,
December 12,
2020 1:42 PM
To:
af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re:
[AFMUG] OT:
Not all Texans
are idiots
This was
similar to how
the south
leaders hauled
all the regular
people into
the civil
war. Yes they
did a good job
stirring
things up
before.
On 12/12/2020
11:19 AM, Bill
Prince wrote:
The people
who should
really be
looking at
this are
the
citizens in
the states
who think
it's
appropriate
for their
AG to sue
another
state's
election
results.
The suit
was what I
would call
banana-pants.
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On
12/11/2020
4:19 PM,
Jaime
Solorza wrote:
All
these
craven
lackeys
got a
big
fuck
you
from
the
SCOTUS...
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