I though that although the DC's use rent-a-cops, they were all ex-military, We-can-have-an-arsenal-here-in-2-minutes-just-like-you-see-in-the-movies rent-a-cops. Because that's the dog and pony show that people expect.

Loved the Movie Sneakers, never understood how the normal office building full of nerdy engineers had a full battalion of heavily armed and trained guards deployed in minutes.

On 12/27/2020 9:52 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
I remember when there was a rash of datacenter robberies in Chicago, if I 
remember right they were stealing equipment and employed guns, tasers and 
sawzalls.

https://www.theregister.com/2007/11/02/chicaco_datacenter_breaches/


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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security

On 12/26/20 9:14 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
Then the buildings itself is huge.  Like a square mile huge. 100%
poured reinforced concrete.  Even if you had a rider truck full of
anfo you would get shot at while driving through the perimeter fence
and then you would just wipe out some administrative offices etc.  Not
even get close to where the servers are.

I seriously doubt that any datacenter rent-a-cops are going to think they're 
Judge Dredd and open fire on anyone. They're a dog and pony show. There's 
literally nothing worth dying for or risking anyone's life to protect at any 
datacenter. If you misbehave they can kick you out, trespass you, and/or call 
the real police. Even if you just drive through a gate onto private property 
what's the worst thing the property owner could try to get your charged for? 
Destruction of property?
Disturbing the peace? Trespassing? Tell you to not come back? Retail loss 
prevention can't even stop shoplifters anymore due to liability, let alone 
shoot at them.

US Government facility or military installation, sure, different response. But 
who's gonna set up a hardware heist these days? The real threat profile is 
trying to break in and steal data electronically rather than physical. And you 
don't even need to directly attack the government to do that; just find a soft 
spot at a software vendor they use (i.e. Solarwinds).

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