We install all kinds of sensors at water and wastewater treatment plants to
detect, monitor and manage these issues.

On Tue, Feb 9, 2021, 11:55 AM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:

> The dosage went to the equivalent of 11 grams per liter.  I don’t think
> that would kill you.  You might not even taste it.  I would expect it to be
> bitter.
>
> The ld50 is 2 grams per kg.  So 200 grams to kill me half way.  That is a
> lot of sodium hydroxide.
> I would have had to drink 18 liters of that water to hit ld50.
>
> The press presents it as a lethal dose in some tellings.
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2021 9:35 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Wow
>
> This sounds a whole lot more like an ex employee with a RAT than
> "hackers". GUI driven access to a water systems control and setting a
> specific value is not the work of "hackers"
> I used to work at a factory as a supervisor of the contract staff when i
> was like 18, one of my roles was to record a message on the PBX every night
> indicating who was working, who was laid off, etc. I went to jail and lost
> that job. some time later i was bored so dialed into the system and tried
> out the numbers i pressed in house to see if there was external access to
> record the message. there was. The message happened to be changed to
> "nobody has to fucking work" that night, or so I hear. half the staff didnt
> show up.
>
>
> They were "hacked" too
>
> On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 9:58 AM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
>> TeamViewer even...
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>> *From: *"Cameron Crum" <cc...@murcevilo.com>
>> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, February 9, 2021 9:55:12 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Wow
>>
>> 1. Why is the system exposed to the public internet at all?
>> 2. Why would they have remote desktop on a machine that has access to
>> these systems?
>>
>> Like most municipal IT departments, they are probably staffed with guys
>> who couldn't get a better job in the private sector. Scary.
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 9:46 AM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In one of the reports I read, they described the mouse/cursor moving
>>> around as if an invisible hand was moving it. Sounds to me as if they're
>>> doing a remote desktop or something?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> bp
>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>
>>> On 2/9/2021 7:42 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
>>>
>>> It's like the hacks of every late 80s-early90's moving coming true.
>>>
>>> On 2/9/2021 8:45 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/08/us/oldsmar-florida-hack-water-poison/index.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
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