Probably not hard. 

That being said reports are now coming in that the constellation is collapsing. 

Many reports of speeds down to 10-30mbps. Latency all over the place 300+ms. 

> On Feb 9, 2021, at 7:02 PM, Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Wonder (just academic wondering) how hard it will be to jam starlink... just 
> wondering...
>  
> From: Matt Hoppes
> Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 4:59 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink - First Blood
>  
> Ooo. Just saw another customer post on Facebook they ordered Starlink.
>  
> Their house is 150% encased in trees.
>  
> This should be interesting to watch.
>  
> He’s also getting 50 down by 40 up on our service for $110.
> 
>> On Feb 9, 2021, at 1:29 PM, Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Its not koolaid, its great marketing!
>>  
>> Gino Villarini 
>> Founder/President
>> @gvillarini
>> t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204 
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>> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> on behalf of Josh Luthman 
>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>> Date: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 at 2:27 PM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink - First Blood
>> 
>> People are stupid and willing to suck up the Apple/Elon kool aid?  I'm 
>> shocked.
>> 
>> People think they need 50 mbps or 150 mbps when they have *NO IDEA* what 
>> they're currently using is just a fine example of marketing and bigger is 
>> always better (see muscle cars in the 60s).
>>  
>> Josh Luthman
>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
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>> Troy, OH 45373
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>>  
>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 12:59 PM Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:
>> There have been published discussions with Musk about RV's and Starlink and 
>> a separate interview with the developers where the RV use of starlink was 
>> discussed and committed to by both Musk and the developers.   I figure I 
>> want to get the h/w and play with it at a fixed location to understand setup 
>> time, quality, limitations ( can you have another router, address space, 
>> etc. etc.. ) before moving it to the RV.   I figured the list is going to 
>> get pretty long and the h/w will change with expansion of production, 
>> evolution of the service.  So being early will have advantages and 
>> disadvantages.   So final usage in the RV is the goal but not initial need.
>> 
>> On 2/9/21 9:44 AM, David Sovereen via AF wrote:
>> Robert,
>>  
>> I wanted was going to sign up to get Starlink for my RV but saw this on 
>> their web site and decided to postpone until I learned more:
>>  
>> Can I travel with Starlink, or move it to a different address?
>> Starlink satellites are scheduled to send internet down to all users within 
>> a designated area on the ground. This designated area is referred to as a 
>> cell.
>> Your Starlink is assigned to a single cell. If you move your Starlink 
>> outside of its assigned cell, a satellite will not be scheduled to serve 
>> your Starlink and you will not receive internet. This is constrained by 
>> geometry and is not arbitrary geofencing.
>> Please let us know how traveling with it works out for you.  If it does 
>> travel well, I want it!
>>  
>> Thanks,
>>  
>> Dave
>>  
>> David Sovereen
>>  
>> Mercury Network Corporation
>> 2719 Ashman Street, Midland, MI 48640
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>> 
>> On Feb 9, 2021, at 12:37 PM, i...@avantwireless.com wrote:
>>  
>> I see that Musk is, a) testing demand, b) raising a chunk of Starlink 
>> specific cash ( no strings attached ), c) figuring out where the next 
>> orbits/ground stations need to be.  d) understanding usage and limitations.  
>>  All very valid reasons to open up general sales.   I threw $100 at it to 
>> get on the list for one that I will use with the RV in the future and to 
>> test the reality of the service.   It should be interesting to watch 
>> performance change with the addition of infrastructure vs. customers.
>> 
>> On 2/9/21 8:46 AM, David Coudron wrote:
>> I ordered a Starlink system as my cabin is in an area that we can get 
>> service right away from Starlink and we don’t service the area with our 
>> network.   Other locations in MN say it will be middle to late 2021 for 
>> service availability.   I should have some first hand knowledge in a week or 
>> two.   As mentioned below, it is basically $600 to start and $99 a month.   
>> Will be interesting.
>>  
>> Regards,
>>  
>> David Coudron
>>  
>> From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com On Behalf Of Darin Steffl
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 10:34 AM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink - First Blood
>>  
>> If he's truly surrounded by trees with no clear sky like the Starlink app 
>> shows with their VR overlay, he will likely have a poor experience with it 
>> and maybe come back.
>>  
>> We always tell people canceling what their average usage is because we use 
>> Preseem and most people rarely average more than 10 Mbps unless they're 
>> doing a download.
>>  
>> So someone on our 25 Mbps plan will peak and hit that but their average is 
>> typically under 10 Mbps so if they switch for something "faster", we will 
>> tell them they won't notice a difference and send screenshots of their 
>> preseem graphs to prove it. If you average 10 Mbps, having 1000 Mbps fiber 
>> instead of 25 Mbps won't feel any faster at all.
>>  
>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 10:28 AM Matt Hoppes 
>> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>> Got our first "Starlink" call today.  Guy who's been a long term 
>> customer - paying $90 for 50 megabits -- and getting that.
>> 
>> Says "I'd rather give my money to a local company than to Musk, but 
>> those speeds.  Any chance you'll be offering faster speeds?".
>> 
>> My only response was - if you truly need 150 megabits at your home, then 
>> Starlink is probably a better option for you.  We've found that 99% of 
>> our customers barely use 25 megabits, which is why our top plan is 50 
>> megabits.
>> 
>> "OK, well I just wanted to try to give money locally".
>> 
>> I appreciate that, but if you'd like to pay $9 more per month, plus a 
>> $600 install fee, to get the same speeds you're getting with us with the 
>> occasional faster speeds, and drops with every satellite switch, be my 
>> guest.
>> 
>> This guy's house is also completely surrounded by trees.  I'm curious to 
>> see how this will play out.
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