I'll continue to disallow and block FB and sovrin can continue doing
their thing without me. I wish them a lot of luck
On 2/25/21 1:43 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
Ahh, and like everything else if you dont allow, you dont get access
On Thu, Feb 25, 2021, 3:38 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com
<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote:
You and your block chain and ID are in control of who gets what.
It turns it around. If you go to login somewhere, that somewhere
asks you if it can have access. It turns it totally around. You
decide who gets what info. Essentially everyone logs into you
instead of the other way around. FB has to ask you if it can
connect to your browser. You have a policy dictating what it can
see. You are in total control.
*From:* Jan-GAMs
*Sent:* Thursday, February 25, 2021 1:53 PM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FB account deleted
And what happens to your data and ID when sovrin gets hacked? Is
sovrin going to insure your account and pay you for your loss?
Clean-up any identity fraud? So far, all I see is a larger
hack-target!
On 2/25/21 9:54 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
If widely adopted this https://sovrin.org/ <https://sovrin.org/>
can solve everything. I know the founder.
*From:* Jan-GAMs
*Sent:* Thursday, February 25, 2021 10:25 AM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FB account deleted
I don't have anything against 2fa, I just think giving it to a
business that is involved with selling your personal data is
moronic. They have no excusable reason even knowing your real
name, why you giving them info directly traceable to specifically
you?
On 2/25/21 6:57 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
Why do you guys hate to factor authentication I turn it on
everywhere I can. Is it really that hard to get a text message
and enter a six or eight digit number to know that your account
is secure.
Especially with the ability of most websites to remember the
device you’re logging in from it’s usually a once in a great
while thing.
On Feb 25, 2021, at 8:45 AM, Steve Jones
mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:
I do hate 2fa as well, I had an issue with a credit card
payment to my cell carrier last week, so my service was shut
off. So I go to log into my credit card portal, guess where the
auth text got sent. But the cumbersome nature of it did force
me to rethink my refusal to put alternate forms of payment on
file and to actually open credit card statements.
Fyi, percent cashback only pays off of you're cards are set to
pay the balance automatically and not the default of minimum
monthly payment. That default should be illegal too
On Thu, Feb 25, 2021, 7:21 AM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net>
wrote:
I only use 2FA when required. It's a pain in the butt.
I do use a password manager with randomly generated passwords.
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This got me thinking. What do you think the public's
tolerance would be for full throated protection if it came
at the cost of inconvenience, like you have to verify your
identity to reset a password, but that also means a
malicious actor would have to do the same. If one of the
steps required human interaction, like going to a bank, or
the dmv (never the dmv) or any authorized identity
verification location. Almost every jail and police
department in every podunk town has digital fingerprinting
now. Most larger towns have businesses whose sole purpose
is fingerprinting people. There are tons of ways to verify
identity in person on top of the digital mechanisms
attached to Nexus.
Would the inconvenience force people to become more
proactive to avoid the inconvenience, like actually use a
legitimate password manager and 2FA? Would they maybe not
click every link they see?
I think its obvious that adoption, if voluntary would be
virtually nil. But what if the big 3 apple, Google and
facebook implemented it? Noting that those three also are
the verification medium for a large percentage of
everything else.
It's a matter of time until identity theft is a
multitrillion dollar industry, the vast majority is rooted
in convenience over security. I can see even republicans
backing funding for this type of thing considering the cost
is going to be much less than the recovery costs of id theft
People will drive 10 miles to get a wifi signal for
facebook, it's really not outside the realm of reason for
this to be a feasible process.
Can this idea be patented?
On Wed, Feb 24, 2021, 1:13 PM Seth Mattinen
<se...@rollernet.us> wrote:
On 2/24/21 06:17, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote:
> Well she got back in with help from my son. Still
not sure what the
> deal was. Guess I'll have to start looking at
1Password or LastPassword.
Facebook actually supports decent 2FA options like TOTP
and FIDO (i.e.
yubikey) for 2FA. I'd recommend enabling one of those.
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