I think they would be happy with it if it was only 5 Mbps. With 10 Mbps, they would be ecstatic. With 20 Mbps they will be dancing in the streets.
bp
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On 3/4/2021 9:17 AM, Robert wrote:
I know there are a huge number of people, unserved currently except for geo-sat, will love this, even if it's 20mb/s.
On 3/4/21 8:54 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:
Marketing people will certainly tell you that putting up 12,000 wifi APs will 1.2gbps*12,000 capacity though...
I think Starlink is probably going to work very well for what it's supposed to do, but at this point, I don't think most people really understand what it is. There's too much hype around it that's giving people unrealistic expectations... kind of like 5G.
On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 10:26 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
--Yeah but marketing people are dumb in every company. I don't underestimate their engineers, but I do believe the people selling it will be prone to overstating what it does.
I think people keep assuming things like "20Gbps per satellite x 12,000 satellites = eleventy skillion yottabits"
Anybody who's ever installed WiFi ought to understand that an AP that can theoretically do 1.2gbps doesn't actually do 1.2gbps, and putting 12,000 of them in a building wouldn't let you multiply capacity * 12,000.
IMO it will be better than existing satellite systems, but it will not be a panacea, and fixed wireless will absolutely still be competitive with it. ....and of course it won't replace cable or fiber.
On 3/4/2021 11:18 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
As much as we all hope there are operational issues that will make it less than perfect, it is made by some very smart people. People smart enough to land a buck rogers rocket on its tail feathers. I would not underestimate them. I am still hopeful that there are issues...From: Bill PrinceSent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 9:15 AMTo: af@af.afmug.comSubject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip alreadyIf the top is relatively slick, and it's almost always tilted, maybe they just need to make a thin layer of water to get it to slide off?
bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>On 3/4/2021 5:31 AM, Steven Kenney wrote:
Found this interesting tidbit I didnt know aboutSnow Melt Mode
Deployed basic Snow Melt Mode, during which Starlink produces additional heat to mitigate signal attenuation caused by snow build-up on the face of the user terminal.
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From: "Matt Hoppes" mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
To: "af" mailto:af@af.afmug.com, "Steve Jones" mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
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He's trying to land a Methane filled blimp while ignited! We already
provided this was a bad idea with the Hindenburg.
On 3/3/21 6:50 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
> what part of beta dont people understand? is it because general
> consumers are getting beta and dont actually know what beta is? this is
> the same reason we make people cut trees down now BEFORE we install. we
> used to just install and tell them to cut it. but too many
> people complained about exactly what we told them would happen happening.
>
> I have faith in starlink, I think in 5 years it will be a whole other
> landscape. Musk seems like one of those guys who thrives on detractors
> and proving people wrong.
>
> But regardless, beta is beta
>
> On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 5:15 PM Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com
> mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Ha...
>
> On Wed, Mar 3, 2021, 3:42 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com
> mailto:af@af.afmug.com> wrote:
>
> Tin cans and string will be better than Hughes.
> *From:* Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 3, 2021 3:20 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already
> From your mouth to God's ears Chuck on Covid-19...
> unfortunately it's going to take a step backwards in Texas..
> I heard some ranchers near Big Bend want to switch from Hughes
> to Starlink ...my friend does IT work for several of them...
> curious to see how well it works.
> On Wed, Mar 3, 2021, 1:39 PM Chuck McCown via AF
> mailto:af@af.afmug.com wrote:
>
> I think that they are going to find more than enough
> customers in hard to serve locations that they will not
> encroach on the better served areas too much. I am always
> an optimist. BTW, Covid will be done in a month...
> *From:* Colin Stanners
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 3, 2021 9:50 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already
> Starlink *BETA* . Maybe they're simulating load of a few
> hundred, or a thousand, customers on each bird to prepare
> for when it's actually busy. (based on the "20Gbps" capacity
> per sat)
> Considering the amount of effort and design that goes into
> such a massive and complex system, people should be thankful
> that it's working with a good-enough uptime right now.
> On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 10:47 AM Dev mailto:d...@logicalwebhost.com
> wrote:
>
> Already hearing from folks who have the service that
> they’re seeing dips below 15Mbps, and this at light
> loads with few customers, we’ll see how this scales. Or
> doesn’t. Are others in different geographies seeing similar?
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