It seems like a reasonable solution to me. And if they're well-armed, it
will also be quite secure.

On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 3:25 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Im am unopposed to this
>
> On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 2:49 PM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
>> Well right, but there's not really any way around that, short of having a
>> bunch of midgets you keep stacked in the basement with passwords written on
>> their foreheads and you summon them by yelling the name of the site or
>> service you need the password for.
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From: *"Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com>
>> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, March 30, 2021 2:42:19 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti played fast and loose with the truth?
>>
>> I think Steve's point is that if you have all of your stuff stored in one
>> place, if somebody gets access to that place, they have all your stuff.
>> Whether that place is Lastpass, a TXT file or a forehead isn't particularly
>> important.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 2:23 PM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Right, I read that. That doesn't mean anything. It could have just as
>>> well said that they were previously stored in a TXT file on the desktop or
>>> written backwards on the SysAdmin's forehead.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> Mike Hammett
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>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>
>>>
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From: *"Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>>> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, March 30, 2021 2:18:41 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti played fast and loose with the truth?
>>>
>>> from the sounds of it thats how they gained the access
>>>
>>> Adam says the attacker(s) had access to privileged credentials that were
>>> previously stored in the LastPass
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LastPass> account of a Ubiquiti IT
>>> employee, and gained root administrator access to all Ubiquiti AWS
>>> accounts, including all S3 data buckets, all application logs, all
>>> databases, all user database credentials, and secrets required to forge
>>> single sign-on (SSO) cookies.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 2:10 PM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't know that LastPass really had anything to do with it, other
>>>> than that's where someone stored a password.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From: *"Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>>>> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
>>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, March 30, 2021 2:06:13 PM
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti played fast and loose with the truth?
>>>>
>>>> hahaha, lastpass. I like to keep all eggs in a single basket, that way
>>>> when i have both hands in the cookie jar, all a guy need to do is walk off
>>>> with the basket and make an omelette
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 1:59 PM Cameron Crum <cc...@murcevilo.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> We are shocked. SHOCKED I say!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 1:18 PM Robert Andrews <i...@avantwireless.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess I should have not just put in a link without commenting...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why am I surprised?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 03/30/2021 11:15 AM, Robert Andrews wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> https://krebsonsecurity.com/2021/03/whistleblower-ubiquiti-breach-catastrophic/
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
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