Why midgets though?  Could be people of any height.

On 3/30/2021 4:45 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
It seems like a reasonable solution to me. And if they're well-armed, it will also be quite secure.

On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 3:25 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    Im am unopposed to this

    On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 2:49 PM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net
    <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:

        Well right, but there's not really any way around that, short
        of having a bunch of midgets you keep stacked in the basement
        with passwords written on their foreheads and you summon them
        by yelling the name of the site or service you need the
        password for.



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        *From: *"Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com
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        *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com
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        *Sent: *Tuesday, March 30, 2021 2:42:19 PM
        *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti played fast and loose with the
        truth?

        I think Steve's point is that if you have all of your stuff
        stored in one place, if somebody gets access to that place,
        they have all your stuff. Whether that place is Lastpass, a
        TXT file or a forehead isn't particularly important.

        On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 2:23 PM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net
        <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:

            Right, I read that. That doesn't mean anything. It could
            have just as well said that they were previously stored in
            a TXT file on the desktop or written backwards on the
            SysAdmin's forehead.



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            *From: *"Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
            <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>>
            *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com
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            *Sent: *Tuesday, March 30, 2021 2:18:41 PM
            *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti played fast and loose with
            the truth?

            from the sounds of it thats how they gained the access

            Adam says the attacker(s) had access to privileged
            credentials that were previously stored in the LastPass
            <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LastPass> account of a
            Ubiquiti IT employee, and gained root administrator access
            to all Ubiquiti AWS accounts, including all S3 data
            buckets, all application logs, all databases, all user
            database credentials, and secrets required to forge single
            sign-on (SSO) cookies.

            On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 2:10 PM Mike Hammett
            <af...@ics-il.net <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:

                I don't know that LastPass really had anything to do
                with it, other than that's where someone stored a
                password.



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                *From: *"Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
                <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>>
                *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
                <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
                *Sent: *Tuesday, March 30, 2021 2:06:13 PM
                *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti played fast and loose
                with the truth?

                hahaha, lastpass. I like to keep all eggs in a single
                basket, that way when i have both hands in the cookie
                jar, all a guy need to do is walk off with the basket
                and make an omelette

                On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 1:59 PM Cameron Crum
                <cc...@murcevilo.com <mailto:cc...@murcevilo.com>> wrote:

                    We are shocked. SHOCKED I say!

                    On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 1:18 PM Robert Andrews
                    <i...@avantwireless.com
                    <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote:

                        I guess I should have not just put in a link
                        without commenting...

                        So:

                        Why am I surprised?

                        On 03/30/2021 11:15 AM, Robert Andrews wrote:
                        >
                        
https://krebsonsecurity.com/2021/03/whistleblower-ubiquiti-breach-catastrophic/
                        
<https://krebsonsecurity.com/2021/03/whistleblower-ubiquiti-breach-catastrophic/>

                        >
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