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On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 9:41 AM <af-requ...@af.afmug.com> wrote: > Send AF mailing list submissions to > af@af.afmug.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > af-requ...@af.afmug.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > af-ow...@af.afmug.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of AF digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Moving from cnMaestro Cloud to onPrem (Josh Luthman) > 2. Re: Moving from cnMaestro Cloud to onPrem (Carl Peterson) > 3. G.fast or G.hn for MDUs with older wiring (Brough Turner) > 4. Re: Moving from cnMaestro Cloud to onPrem (Josh Luthman) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 10:31:51 -0400 > From: Brough Turner <bro...@netblazr.com> > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> > Subject: [AFMUG] G.fast or G.hn for MDUs with older wiring > Message-ID: > <CAD2VXC_oHy31ngwpCpUm13KL5aEbR3TqZxC5= > ngu7or2pnj...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > We're an urban WISP with most of our residential customers in MDUs. Most of > these MDUs have Cat5e or Cat6 from central closets (usually per floor) into > each unit. However, we have 13 buildings where we deployed Planet VDSL2 > gear over older phone wire between 2013 & 2016. We stopped going after > such buildings and stopped deploying new VDSL2 gear in 2017. Now Planet > has discontinued the equipment we were using and we just used our only > spare DSLAM, so we'll have to upgrade at least a few buildings (if only to > obtain spares to keep the rest of our VDSL2 buildings alive). > > I have some G.hn experience. Back in 2017, we did a demonstration > project with Korea Telecom using G.hn equipment that KT provided: > > > http://www.madison-park.org/press/bostons-netblazr-korea-telecom-partner-supply-affordable-housing-residents-free-high-speed-internet/ > The building had older 25-pair telecom cables terminated on Type 66 blocks, > i.e. 1970s(?) wiring. As we connected customers, the results got worse and > worse, presumably the result of cross talk in the 25-pair bundles. In the > end, results were still a bit better than the 70-80 Mbps we get from our > Planet VDSL2 gear, but not much. One thing I noticed was the KT DSLAM > (UbiQuoss U4224BU) had individual RJ11 jacks for each line. This compares > with G.fast equipment that seems to connect via 25-pair cables. Talking to > a KT engineer who came to Boston to help with the installation, I got the > impression that most MDUs where this gear is used in Korea have Cat3 > cabling, not 25-pair bundles. In any event, I'm a bit discouraged with > G.hn. > > The pro-G.fast arguments include that it has better crosstalk protection, > for example this: > > > http://www.mocalliance.org/access/Broadband-technology-evaluation-and-analysis.pdf > but I have no experience as yet. > > If I go with G.fast, I'm aware of these vendors: > > Fast Systems (Robert Muller CTO) > Adtran > Calix > > I know Robert and have talked with him recently. But I don't have any > experience with any G.fast equipment. > > If anyone has actually deployed G.fast in an MDU, I'd love to hear about > the setup and your experience. > > Thanks, > Brough > > Brough Turner > netBlazr Inc. ? Free your Broadband! > Mobile: 617-285-0433 Skype: brough > netBlazr Inc. <http://www.netblazr.com/> | Twitter > <https://twitter.com/#%21/brough> | LinkedIn > <http://www.linkedin.com/in/broughturner> | Facebook > <http://www.facebook.com/brough.turner> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/private/af_af.afmug.com/attachments/20210519/395fa756/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------Subject: Digest Footer > > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > ------------------------------ > > End of AF Digest, Vol 36, Issue 113 > *********************************** >
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