Thanks Ryan, Have you deployed it and, if so, can you describe the cabling, # of customers and the results they see?
Thanks, Brough Brough Turner netBlazr Inc. – Free your Broadband! Mobile: 617-285-0433 Skype: brough netBlazr Inc. <http://www.netblazr.com/> | Twitter <https://twitter.com/#%21/brough> | LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/broughturner> | Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/brough.turner> On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 11:02 AM Ryan McAfee <r...@n5qz.org> wrote: > There is also Positron > https://www.positronaccess.com/ > > On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 9:41 AM <af-requ...@af.afmug.com> wrote: > >> Send AF mailing list submissions to >> af@af.afmug.com >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> af-requ...@af.afmug.com >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> af-ow...@af.afmug.com >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of AF digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Moving from cnMaestro Cloud to onPrem (Josh Luthman) >> 2. Re: Moving from cnMaestro Cloud to onPrem (Carl Peterson) >> 3. G.fast or G.hn for MDUs with older wiring (Brough Turner) >> 4. Re: Moving from cnMaestro Cloud to onPrem (Josh Luthman) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 10:31:51 -0400 >> From: Brough Turner <bro...@netblazr.com> >> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> >> Subject: [AFMUG] G.fast or G.hn for MDUs with older wiring >> Message-ID: >> <CAD2VXC_oHy31ngwpCpUm13KL5aEbR3TqZxC5= >> ngu7or2pnj...@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> We're an urban WISP with most of our residential customers in MDUs. Most >> of >> these MDUs have Cat5e or Cat6 from central closets (usually per floor) >> into >> each unit. However, we have 13 buildings where we deployed Planet VDSL2 >> gear over older phone wire between 2013 & 2016. We stopped going after >> such buildings and stopped deploying new VDSL2 gear in 2017. Now Planet >> has discontinued the equipment we were using and we just used our only >> spare DSLAM, so we'll have to upgrade at least a few buildings (if only to >> obtain spares to keep the rest of our VDSL2 buildings alive). >> >> I have some G.hn experience. Back in 2017, we did a demonstration >> project with Korea Telecom using G.hn equipment that KT provided: >> >> >> http://www.madison-park.org/press/bostons-netblazr-korea-telecom-partner-supply-affordable-housing-residents-free-high-speed-internet/ >> The building had older 25-pair telecom cables terminated on Type 66 >> blocks, >> i.e. 1970s(?) wiring. As we connected customers, the results got worse >> and >> worse, presumably the result of cross talk in the 25-pair bundles. In the >> end, results were still a bit better than the 70-80 Mbps we get from our >> Planet VDSL2 gear, but not much. One thing I noticed was the KT DSLAM >> (UbiQuoss U4224BU) had individual RJ11 jacks for each line. This compares >> with G.fast equipment that seems to connect via 25-pair cables. Talking >> to >> a KT engineer who came to Boston to help with the installation, I got the >> impression that most MDUs where this gear is used in Korea have Cat3 >> cabling, not 25-pair bundles. In any event, I'm a bit discouraged with >> G.hn. >> >> The pro-G.fast arguments include that it has better crosstalk protection, >> for example this: >> >> >> http://www.mocalliance.org/access/Broadband-technology-evaluation-and-analysis.pdf >> but I have no experience as yet. >> >> If I go with G.fast, I'm aware of these vendors: >> >> Fast Systems (Robert Muller CTO) >> Adtran >> Calix >> >> I know Robert and have talked with him recently. But I don't have any >> experience with any G.fast equipment. >> >> If anyone has actually deployed G.fast in an MDU, I'd love to hear about >> the setup and your experience. >> >> Thanks, >> Brough >> >> Brough Turner >> netBlazr Inc. ? Free your Broadband! >> Mobile: 617-285-0433 Skype: brough >> netBlazr Inc. <http://www.netblazr.com/> | Twitter >> <https://twitter.com/#%21/brough> | LinkedIn >> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/broughturner> | Facebook >> <http://www.facebook.com/brough.turner> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: < >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/private/af_af.afmug.com/attachments/20210519/395fa756/attachment-0001.html >> > >> >> ------------------------------Subject: Digest Footer >> >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of AF Digest, Vol 36, Issue 113 >> *********************************** >> > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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