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On 6/28/21 3:19 PM, TJ Trout wrote:
(tower top)
On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 3:18 PM TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com
<mailto:t...@voltbb.com>> wrote:
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On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 2:58 PM Robert <i...@avantwireless.com
<mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote:
Anderson Power pole gear.
On 6/28/21 2:33 PM, Nate Burke wrote:
> How do you distribute the 48/24v power? A row of fused
links? circuit
> breakers? That's always been the part that looks cobbled
together. I
> see Windstream rectifier racks with wire nuts, and wire just
hanging
> out in the open, and an autozone inverter sitting on a
shelf, so
> apparently even the Telco's don't always have good solutions.
>
> On 6/28/2021 12:35 PM, dmmoff...@gmail.com
<mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> You already pointed out the major plus to A/C power: It's
simple.
>> Any joker
>> can come along and plug something in. Almost every device
has a 110VAC
>> option.
>>
>> UPS's are looking cheaper because you're getting
used/refurb. You'll
>> come
>> out more comparable with a new DC system compared to a new
UPS with
>> similar
>> runtime and capacity.
>>
>> I've never had a UPS as reliable as a rectifier. A handful of
>> failures out
>> of dozens over several years does not actually sound
reliable at
>> all. It's
>> obviously tolerable to you in your scenario, but it's not
telecom
>> reliability. Scale that up to 100's of deployments and
you'll be
>> chasing
>> dead UPS's more often than you'll want to.
>>
>> The good rectifier systems will be -48v because that's the
standard for
>> telecom power. If you're in Ubiquiti/Mikrotik land you'll
have to use
>> converters to +24V. If you're in Cisco/Juniper/Arista land
then it
>> can all
>> be -48v and then you don't need the converters.
>>
>> I absolutely have been where you are now. If you're on a
budget
>> where what
>> you can afford is the used APC XL then maybe you just stick
with
>> that. DC
>> plant is better, but you will pay more for it and you'll
pay more for
>> the
>> routers and switches designed for it.
>>
>> These are all statements of opinion, but it's opinion
informed by 22
>> years
>> of playing this game.
>>
>> -Adam
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of Nate Burke
>> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 12:58 PM
>> To: Animal Farm <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
>> Subject: [AFMUG] Tower UPS's (again)
>>
>> We've been using the APC SmartUPS 750XL as a Tower UPS for
several
>> years.
>> Put 2-8 100+AH AGM Batteries on them, and they've been rock
solid for
>> us. I
>> can think of only a handful of failures in the dozens
deployed over
>> the last
>> several years. I used to source them off ebay for $50-$70
each, but
>> they're
>> becoming more and more scarce. Anybody have a
recommendation for a
>> simple
>> UPS that will do all the monitoring that the APC does and
accept big
>> batteries?
>>
>> We're a Metro-Rural Area, our power outages are usually
measured in
>> Hours,
>> not days. So I'm not as concerned with the inefficiency of
doing the
>> DC/AC/DC Conversion for Runtime, just power stability during
>> outages/fluctuations. I like the ease of connecting the
external
>> batteries to the APC, since the XL line has an Anderson
plug on the
>> back for
>> them, and has a larger charger than the normal UPS, so
recharge times
>> are
>> very quick.
>>
>> When the boss goes to the WISPA Shows, his head is filled
with all
>> kids of
>> ideas, so he want's me to investigate doing everything as a
DC Plant,
>> When I
>> price that out, with chargers, voltage converters (24/48),
inverters,
>> fuse
>> protection, LVD, Monitoring, etc, it always seems like the
price is a
>> couple
>> hundred dollars of parts and it would be cobbled together.
>>
>> Am I missing something with doing a DC Plant? I see the
telco's at the
>> sites using a rackmount rectifier with power supply
modules, but
>> those are a
>> several hundred by themselves, and they are only 48V, they
don't have to
>> worry about 24v radios. When I build a site now, I drop in 2
>> batteries, and
>> the APC, and the site is up and running in a couple
minutes. A DIN rail
>> with a couple power supplies and the box is done, and has
fully
>> monitored
>> power, and I can plug in whatever I want without any equipment
>> modifications.
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