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> On Jul 18, 2021, at 7:37 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
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> https://www.wavedc.com/
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> Which ILECs are they overbuilding?
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> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
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> Midwest Internet Exchange
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> The Brothers WISP
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> From: "Chuck McCown via AF" <af@af.afmug.com>
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Cc: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@go-mtc.com>
> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2021 1:28:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile RF contact
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> I wonder what is behind zipply?   I just got asked to go to a mid sized town 
> and build zipply ftth.  I might.  Their rates are pretty good for 
> contractors.  So who is behind them?  They are overbuilding ILECS. 
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> From: Jan-GAMs
> Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 11:52 AM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile RF contact
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> I can go take photos of it, but that would be a real pain in the ass as it's 
> not a short drive.  In some cases it's a box up on the power-pole attached to 
> the phone cable and from that point to the house it's fiber.  In some cases 
> it comes straight out of the box mounted to the side of the roadway where 
> both fiber and copper come out of it and go up the pole for distribution to 
> the neighborhood.  I stopped and talked to one of their guys on their truck, 
> he said they use copper to a converter and fiber from there to the house so 
> it's really DSL even though it's fiber.  This conversation was about a year 
> ago, I forget what he called the converter.
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> Our main competitor in this area is zipply and the customers that switch to 
> us all have a common complaint, poor speeds.  They were promised 30MBps or 
> higher and usually get less than 5 and their main bitch is they're not able 
> to connect, upload/download and they're paying for services they're not 
> getting.  We have two customers that switched because they telework from 
> home.  They file documents, come-on, what kind of load is required for 
> filling out orders and forms which are mostly text?  Barely 1MBps if that and 
> zipply lost those accounts.  
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> We market like a puppy-store.  Try it for a test drive for 30 days, free, Try 
> us, compared to what you have already.  If you like us then start paying 
> after 30 days.  If you don't like us, ask us to come get our equipment, no 
> charges.  No contract.  
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> On 7/16/21 1:43 PM, TJ Trout wrote:
> Jan I will have to say that I don't think any of that is accurate, but the 
> thing that stands out the most; They are feeding their fibers subs from dsl? 
> C'mon really? I think you are confused, Zipply is primarily expanding and 
> providing fiber, but they bought some service areas from Frontier and they 
> are stuck with some dsl stuff due to caf obligations, show me where anyone is 
> delivering fiber to a customer that is fed via DSL and I'll eat my shoe...
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>> On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 1:34 PM Jan-GAMs <j.vank...@grnacres.net> wrote:
>> Well of course, you don't think they want the law-suits to follow them do 
>> you?  They blame the corporate, hold a circular firing squad and start-up a 
>> new company.  The local VP was someone I personally know.  He moved away on 
>> a new venture of his own, he started up a WISP, now he doesn't report to 
>> anybody other than his wife and customers.  He's much happier and healthy 
>> now.
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>> On 7/16/21 1:16 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>> Zipply is totally different management than Frontier.
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>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
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>> Midwest Internet Exchange
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>> The Brothers WISP
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>> From: "Jan-GAMs" mailto:j.vank...@grnacres.net
>> To: af@af.afmug.com
>> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 3:12:24 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile RF contact
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>> Yeah, Frontier wouldn't answer the phones for tech support, wouldn't take 
>> care of their customers, etc.... . We had to switch our phone service, it 
>> too sucked.  They used to be GE, then Verizon, then Frontier and now they're 
>> zipply.  Same people, same company, same trucks, same buildings.  Selling 
>> DSL as if it's fiber.  They have DSL nodes along the highway and they run 
>> some kind of converter to fiber and run that fiber to homes in the area.  
>> The further they get down the road of course, the shittier the signal.  I 
>> think that's their MO: rip everyone off till the law-suits start, close shop 
>> and reappear with a new name.
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>> We have one customer who paid for two lines from Zipply just to get 6MBps of 
>> iffy service for $90/mo.  We give them 30MBps for $55/mo.  They're real 
>> happy I knocked on their door.
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>> On 7/16/21 12:53 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>> They changed their name?
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>> From: "Jan-GAMs" mailto:j.vank...@grnacres.net
>> To: af@af.afmug.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2021 6:00:01 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile RF contact
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>> You must not be from around here.  their reputation got so bad they changed 
>> their name
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>> On 7/14/21 12:23 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>> frontier does not play fast and loose. They follow all of the rules and are 
>> completely on the up an up. When I think of an upstanding company, I think 
>> of Frontier
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>> On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 1:52 PM Mark Radabaugh <m...@amplex.net> wrote:
>>> I  can’t prove it yet, but I’m pretty sure there a number of mobile and 
>>> iLEC’s running CBRS gear illegally.   Frontier has been playing pretty fast 
>>> and loose with the rules around here.
>>> 
>>> Mark
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>>> > On Jul 14, 2021, at 2:39 PM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
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>>> > Does anyone know how to get in touch with a T-Mobile RF engineer?
>>> > 
>>> > Our CBRS network has been receiving heavy interference from what we 
>>> > believe is a new T-Mobile site at an American tower facility.  
>>> > 
>>> > The equipment isn’t registered with the SAS and appears to be operating 
>>> > in the part 90 portion of the band 3650-3700mhz as a part 90 device and 
>>> > not a part 96 CBRS device.
>>> > 
>>> > American tower has been no help other than opening a ticket.  
>>> > 
>>> > Federated is our SAS vendor and they haven’t been any help either other 
>>> > than telling us it’s not in the SAS.
>>> > 
>>> > I’ve also done an application search in the FCC auction 105 (CRBS) site, 
>>> > but T-mobile must have been bidding under a different name.
>>> > 
>>> > Any help is much appreciated,
>>> > 
>>> > -Sean Heskett
>>> > 970-846-8065
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>>> > 970-871-8500 x100 - Office
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