Interesting... 



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From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@go-mtc.com> 
To: "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> 
Cc: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> 
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2021 11:00:22 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile RF contact 

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On Jul 18, 2021, at 7:37 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: 




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https://www.wavedc.com/ 


Which ILECs are they overbuilding? 




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From: "Chuck McCown via AF" <af@af.afmug.com> 
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Cc: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@go-mtc.com> 
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2021 1:28:22 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile RF contact 




I wonder what is behind zipply? I just got asked to go to a mid sized town and 
build zipply ftth. I might. Their rates are pretty good for contractors. So who 
is behind them? They are overbuilding ILECS. 




From: Jan-GAMs 
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 11:52 AM 
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile RF contact 


I can go take photos of it, but that would be a real pain in the ass as it's 
not a short drive. In some cases it's a box up on the power-pole attached to 
the phone cable and from that point to the house it's fiber. In some cases it 
comes straight out of the box mounted to the side of the roadway where both 
fiber and copper come out of it and go up the pole for distribution to the 
neighborhood. I stopped and talked to one of their guys on their truck, he said 
they use copper to a converter and fiber from there to the house so it's really 
DSL even though it's fiber. This conversation was about a year ago, I forget 
what he called the converter. 

Our main competitor in this area is zipply and the customers that switch to us 
all have a common complaint, poor speeds. They were promised 30MBps or higher 
and usually get less than 5 and their main bitch is they're not able to 
connect, upload/download and they're paying for services they're not getting. 
We have two customers that switched because they telework from home. They file 
documents, come-on, what kind of load is required for filling out orders and 
forms which are mostly text? Barely 1MBps if that and zipply lost those 
accounts. 

We market like a puppy-store. Try it for a test drive for 30 days, free, Try 
us, compared to what you have already. If you like us then start paying after 
30 days. If you don't like us, ask us to come get our equipment, no charges. No 
contract. 

On 7/16/21 1:43 PM, TJ Trout wrote: 

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Jan I will have to say that I don't think any of that is accurate, but the 
thing that stands out the most; They are feeding their fibers subs from dsl? 
C'mon really? I think you are confused, Zipply is primarily expanding and 
providing fiber, but they bought some service areas from Frontier and they are 
stuck with some dsl stuff due to caf obligations, show me where anyone is 
delivering fiber to a customer that is fed via DSL and I'll eat my shoe... 






On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 1:34 PM Jan-GAMs < j.vank...@grnacres.net > wrote: 

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Well of course, you don't think they want the law-suits to follow them do you? 
They blame the corporate, hold a circular firing squad and start-up a new 
company. The local VP was someone I personally know. He moved away on a new 
venture of his own, he started up a WISP, now he doesn't report to anybody 
other than his wife and customers. He's much happier and healthy now. 

On 7/16/21 1:16 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: 

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Zipply is totally different management than Frontier. 




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From: "Jan-GAMs" mailto:j.vank...@grnacres.net 
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 3:12:24 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile RF contact 


Yeah, Frontier wouldn't answer the phones for tech support, wouldn't take care 
of their customers, etc.... . We had to switch our phone service, it too 
sucked. They used to be GE, then Verizon, then Frontier and now they're zipply. 
Same people, same company, same trucks, same buildings. Selling DSL as if it's 
fiber. They have DSL nodes along the highway and they run some kind of 
converter to fiber and run that fiber to homes in the area. The further they 
get down the road of course, the shittier the signal. I think that's their MO: 
rip everyone off till the law-suits start, close shop and reappear with a new 
name. 

We have one customer who paid for two lines from Zipply just to get 6MBps of 
iffy service for $90/mo. We give them 30MBps for $55/mo. They're real happy I 
knocked on their door. 


On 7/16/21 12:53 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: 

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They changed their name? 




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From: "Jan-GAMs" mailto:j.vank...@grnacres.net 
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2021 6:00:01 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile RF contact 


You must not be from around here. their reputation got so bad they changed 
their name 

On 7/14/21 12:23 PM, Steve Jones wrote: 

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frontier does not play fast and loose. They follow all of the rules and are 
completely on the up an up. When I think of an upstanding company, I think of 
Frontier 


On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 1:52 PM Mark Radabaugh < m...@amplex.net > wrote: 

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I can’t prove it yet, but I’m pretty sure there a number of mobile and iLEC’s 
running CBRS gear illegally. Frontier has been playing pretty fast and loose 
with the rules around here. 

Mark 

> On Jul 14, 2021, at 2:39 PM, Sean Heskett < af...@zirkel.us > wrote: 
> 
> Does anyone know how to get in touch with a T-Mobile RF engineer? 
> 
> Our CBRS network has been receiving heavy interference from what we believe 
> is a new T-Mobile site at an American tower facility. 
> 
> The equipment isn’t registered with the SAS and appears to be operating in 
> the part 90 portion of the band 3650-3700mhz as a part 90 device and not a 
> part 96 CBRS device. 
> 
> American tower has been no help other than opening a ticket. 
> 
> Federated is our SAS vendor and they haven’t been any help either other than 
> telling us it’s not in the SAS. 
> 
> I’ve also done an application search in the FCC auction 105 (CRBS) site, but 
> T-mobile must have been bidding under a different name. 
> 
> Any help is much appreciated, 
> 
> -Sean Heskett 
> 970-846-8065 
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