T-Mobile took over lots of 2 and 3Ghz stuff from Sprint...maybe could be
related to that..

On Sun, Jul 25, 2021, 7:45 AM Tyson Burris <t...@franklinisp.net> wrote:

> LOL, Mike you got to get in the game bro.
>
> I typed that up half asleep as well.
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> It’s not always that easy, but yes we have done all that.
>
> You really think Crown, SBA, American care?
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> Crowns answer:  3ghz isn’t licensed anyone can use it plus you would need
> to contact the interfering party directly
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>
> Well they are partially right.
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> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of * Mike Hammett
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> I just woke up, so maybe my reading comprehension isn't the best yet.
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> Can't you use a spectrum analyzer to track down the sources of the
> interference and then work with the tower owner on who it is that's on that
> tower and contact information?
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> *From: *"Tyson Burris" <t...@franklinisp.net>
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> *Sent: *Sunday, July 25, 2021 5:24:25 AM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] T-Mobile PALs and CBRS GAA
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> Good morning AF Geeks-
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>
>
> Someone help me understand this better.  Several questions below.
>
> We operate in six counties in Indiana.  Some rural some not so much.
>
> In our main county (johnson) we are starting to get interference even when
> we are connected to the SAS.
>
> While we cannot prove anything yet, each tower we are seeing this on
> recently had new T-Mobile equipment deployed.
>
>
>
> I reached out to our attorney, Steve Coran, this week and asked him to
> pulled the county PAL winners. Listed here:
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> PAL winners for Johnson County, IN:
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>
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> XF Wireless Investment, LLC (Comcast) -- 20 MHz
>
> Actel, LLC (CenturyLink) -- 20 MHz
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> Wetterhorn Wireless L.L.C. (DISH) – 30 MHz
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> -Century Link has zero cell services of any kind in our county and
> currently not deploying in fixed wireless.
>
> -Comcast floats off Verizon
>
> -Dish also has zero cell services of any kind in our count
>
>
>
> So what we ended up with is PAL winners who have nothing to offer locally
> yet unless subleasing.
>
>
>
> Questions are:
>
>
>
> is T-Mobile subleasing PAL’s from any of these three?
>
> Is T-Mobile illegally just rotating PAL’s anywhere they want in the
> country instead of just local counties?
>
> Anyway to clearly isolate the offending carrier sucking up so much
> spectrum and causing all the interference?
>
> Another member brought up T-Mobile as a possible offender.  Did any data
> come from that?
>
> What time of the day do the SAS databases sync with each other and does
> this force other carriers to cut back on total GAA – share nicely?
>
> Has anyone found the other SAS providers to be better then GOOGLE.
> Starting to think their system is worthless or inaccurate.  Truth is I
> think this whole concept of spectrum sharing is poorly handled and not
> fully tested on 3g.
>
> If a carrier is on the same tower, how will that affect sync?  I ask
> because we found some very interesting work arounds and results with upload
> when we started playing with sync settings…ie distance, frame, channel.
>
> If the customer SM is moved from one spot to another or from a roof to a
> post how badly does this affect the calculations on the SAS side?
>
>
>
>
>
> Things we have discovered:
>
>    - Even when we find noise floors on spectrum analysis in a reasonable
>    range and move to the cleaner channel on the SAS the interference still
>    trashes the uplinks.
>    - In some cases the SAS is blocking the cleanest of channels which
>    could be PAL related.
>    - In some cases customer SM’s going off other ‘unaffected’ sites
>    nearby may get knocked offline by the new noise.
>    - In some cases we have had to drop off the SAS and found switching to
>    other regulatory has allowed us to switch to cleaner channels and
>    stabilized subs.  (which is exactly what we shouldn’t be doing)
>    - We have a ton of 450m units going on towers as both new and
>    upgrades.  I am concerned that the more urban areas will struggle with
>    capacity since we have to break this up across multiple sectors.
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>
> History and Equipment:
>
> Again this seems very isolated to our more urban deployments which have
> historically been awesome in the 50Mhz channels prior to CBRS turn ups.
>
> Our more rural areas are not seeing this issue at all.
>
> All three locations have very specific and brand new T-Mobile equipment so
> this has been our assumption of the cause without such proof.
>
> Equipment on these commercial towers has been no more then two 450i AP’s
> with KP 120’ sectors (pending 450m upgrades).
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