Yes, but for that you need to physically go outside their building. For badly-secured devices on the internet, they can be hacked from next door as easily as Eastern Europe. And there are many wily people in the latter.
On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 1:01 PM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: > *nods* Not as secure. Ya know, I can TLS end to end, but I can also stick > a 30 year old tape recorder on the phone line NID at the business and > record your fax. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Chuck McCown via AF" <af@af.afmug.com> > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> > *Cc: *"Chuck McCown" <ch...@go-mtc.com> > *Sent: *Friday, November 19, 2021 12:57:04 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Fax Machines > > I just ran into this yesterday. > I wonder if it is a HIPPA thing or DEA thing where you can control the end > point of the conveyance of the information? > > IP is not as secure, perhaps, in someone’s mind. > > Them doctors loves their faxes. > > First FTTH customer I ever did was to a larger office full of doctors. I > talked them into swinging everything to me. > I payed to have the incumbent hook them back up to POTS after a few days > of trying. > The main doctor in this new office building was a friend of mine. > > I will never touch a doctor or pharmacy again. > > Fax and IP/SIP just do not play nice. > > *From:* Brian Webster > *Sent:* Friday, November 19, 2021 11:02 AM > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fax Machines > > > I think there is something about the law and a document being a legal > signature being an original or a fax. Laws haven’t caught up to digital > signatures or pictures of an original document. > > > > Thank you, > > Brian Webster > > www.wirelessmapping.com > > > > *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Nate Burke > *Sent:* Friday, November 19, 2021 12:38 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fax Machines > > > > One of my Physical therapy customers, all their patient documentation is > via fax. The therapist hand writes out the report for the patient, then > it's faxed to corporate where it's automagically sucked into the customers > digital file. So they send 100 faxes/day. You would think that it should > all be just entered right into the customers digital file. > > On 11/19/2021 11:33 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > For some, it's because they're old. > > For others, it's because their industry is a dumpster fire (insurance, > medical, etc.). > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Jay Weekley" mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:af@af.afmug.com > *Sent: *Friday, November 19, 2021 11:24:48 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Fax Machines > > Why do people fax anything in 2021? > > Mike Hammett wrote: > > I'm having fax problems as well. We're going to get reseller > > relationships with the incumbents so we can get a POTS line installed > > and just not freaking deal with it anymore. > > > > > > > > ----- > > Mike Hammett > > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <http://www.ics-il.com/> > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From: *"Nate Burke" mailto:n...@blastcomm.com > > *To: *"Animal Farm" mailto:af@af.afmug.com > > *Sent: *Friday, November 19, 2021 10:50:01 AM > > *Subject: *[AFMUG] Fax Machines > > > > I'm having trouble with one of my customers who insists on having a real > > fax machine. I'm not convinced that it's not the Fax machine talking to > > the ATA, so I was going to take another fax machine to their location to > > test. From the Packet captures, it looks like the Fax machine does not > > successfully negotiate the baud rate. I have several customers doing > > faxing with ATA's and fax machines, the only difference with this > > customer is that their ATA is off my network behind a Comcast connection. > > > > My desktop laser multifunction is a fax machine, but it also weighs > > about 80lb so I don't really want to lug it over. I figured I could > > pickup a cheap inkjet printer for <$50 and it would fax, but it looks > > like fax capability is now relegated to the $200+ machines. Which I > > guess makes sense since nobody 'should' be faxing anymore. > > > > Are there still cheap fax machines out there that I'm missing. > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > > > > > -- > *Jay Weekley* > *Cyber Broadband > * > > -- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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