….and I still love Mikrotik’s, but the CCR1072 crash/reboot issue was a big 
turnoff.  

 

From: dmmoff...@gmail.com <dmmoff...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 2:32 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: RE: [AFMUG] Dual DIA router

 

The only thing I’d be careful of is Juniper changed pricing recently, so don’t 
trust any price you hear that isn’t from 2022.

 

I’m really loving Arista these days.  An Arista L3 switch would probably do 
everything you’d want.  They do have routers too of course, but switches are 
cheap enough to keep a spare.  Arista’s command syntax is identical to Cisco, 
so there’s that too.

 

-Adam

 

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of TJ Trout
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 2:27 PM
To: Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com <mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com> >
Cc: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dual DIA router

 

Yeah just get a juniper, even if you go used, i think it's a front loaded 
investment with a great roi in headaches saved

 

On Tue, Jan 18, 2022, 11:25 AM Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com 
<mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com> > wrote:

We are actually routerless at the moment, buying access from another company 
that has some Cisco big iron there.  

It was a great way to start out from scratch but the economics are such that it 
will pay us to do our own router and own DIA now.  

 

From: TJ Trout 

Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 12:23 PM

To: Chuck McCown 

Cc: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: Dual DIA router

 

What's your current router? I'm sure it can do many connections using a switch 
and vlans. What is the specs you want and budget? Baltic vengence 3 is a good 
option, or mx204 is the best option probably but 25k+

 

On Tue, Jan 18, 2022, 11:13 AM Chuck McCown < <mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com> 
ch...@go-mtc.com> wrote:

To do dual DIA we are going to have to do a new router.  Or used router.  Last 
time down this road we were kicking tires on Juniper.  I don’t have a ton of 
customers on my new system yet but I can foresee 2000 in the next 2-3 years.  

What would be a good value there?  I really don’t want a $25K router right now. 
 

 

From: Chuck McCown via AF 

Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 11:55 AM

To: TJ Trout 

Cc: Chuck McCown ; AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DIA Pricing

 

Not sure I want to have two providers at the moment...  The problem is having 
the two backhaul circuits.  Maybe I could vlan them.  

No harm in quoting HE.  Anyone got a sales contact for me in Utah?

 

From: TJ Trout 

Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 11:47 AM

To: Chuck McCown 

Cc: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DIA Pricing

 

I think HE will go 700-800 and they will usually match each other

 

On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 10:35 AM Chuck McCown < <mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com> 
ch...@go-mtc.com> wrote:

$950 10G flat.  $30 for bgp.  

 

From: TJ Trout 

Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 11:29 AM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Cc: Chuck McCown 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DIA Pricing

 

Cogent charges for bgp so ask for that in the quote if you need it. 

 

Hurricane electric is 700-800$ on a 36mo term I believe, some UT locations with 
few customers might be an extra $500.  

 

Telia is a very good option but won't be quite as inexpensive as Cogent or HE, 
but they have really good routes and the full internet. 

 

I can be your advocate on these types of orders, one email and I'll aggregate 
the quotes and send them back to you, carriers pay me 10% or so out of their 
side of the deal, you still pay the same. 

 

TJ

 

On Tue, Jan 18, 2022, 9:36 AM Chuck McCown via AF < <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> 
af@af.afmug.com> wrote:

Shopping for DIA again.  Asking Cogent to freshen up a quote.  A couple of 
years ago they quoted a special 10G flat for $1200/month.  Hopefully that same 
or better deal is still available.

 

Anyone have other suggestions?

 

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