>I assume no, since it would defeat the security principle purpose.

Correct.  Good and bad, it's always the few that ruin it for the many.

>banner at the top of the page to deliver a message

Probably throwing a frame or something on the top, then showing the rest of
the page at the bottom?  Not sure.

On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 11:22 AM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On that note, is there any way to get cusomers to see a redirect on https
> without the security page? I assume no, since it would defeat the security
> principle purpose.
>
> Mediacom has the ability to inject a banner at the top of the page to
> deliver a message if youre nearing your usage. I assume they can put
> whatever message they want.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 28, 2022, 9:33 AM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> wrote:
>
>> This is how I did it with Mikrotik back in the 2000's.  It's how
>> Powercode has done it since at least 2008.  With SSL grabbing anything and
>> everything, you typically get the bad cert page but when customers see that
>> they call to complain rather than unplug things.  A "Error no internet"
>> makes people move wires.  Any more it's a tool to avoid a truck roll
>> because the customer did something they shouldn't after they didn't pay
>> their bill (I believe "these people" often go together like PBnJ).
>>
>> As far as captive portals, phones do a great job these days with their
>> internet check to msft/Google/Apple.
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 10:12 AM Carl Peterson <
>> cpeter...@portnetworks.com> wrote:
>>
>>> We use QinQ per customer SVLAN/CVLAN which is easy to set on cambium.
>>> If the account isn't valid, radius returns reject to the BNG and the
>>> circuit isn't authorized.  Never bothered to do a splash page with it but
>>> it would be easy enough to put disabled accounts into a routing instance
>>> that directed to a splash page.  For people who do this, how effective is
>>> it?  It feels like half our customers don't use their laptops more than
>>> occasionally unless they work from home.  It's mostile apps on the phone
>>> and you need to deliberately go to a http site on a web browser if you want
>>> to catch a splash page.  Back when we did tons of MDU Wi-Fi we pretty much
>>> had someone spending 1/4 of their time keeping up with captive portal
>>> stuff to make it work with every new OS / web browser version.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 8:32 AM Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> VLAN sounds great for Cambium.  Not sure about Ubnt, I don't think the
>>>> interface is ready for that.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Feb 26, 2022 at 2:27 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
>>>> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> We set up a special van 404 for this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Customers get assigned to this vlan for any reason that necessitates
>>>>> action before being turned back on.
>>>>>
>>>>> At the headend there is a tik set up on this vlan which gives a splash
>>>>> page asking them to call the office.    It also gives them an option to 
>>>>> pay
>>>>> their bill through the (whitelisted) billing portal.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Feb 23, 2022, 12:05 PM Josh Luthman <
>>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd also not turn customers off by disabling ethernet ports.  This is
>>>>>> a small example but a bigger one still would be when the customer starts
>>>>>> changing cables because their internet doesn't work.  Having a redirect
>>>>>> page (SSL errors be damned) is way better.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 9:04 AM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I absolutely understand being busy and having multiple windows open
>>>>>>> and the dangers that can occur if you mix up which window is for which
>>>>>>> task.  Anybody can have an issue in those conditions with any kind of
>>>>>>> hardware.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The fact this person did it 6 times in quick succession means
>>>>>>> someone gave them access they shouldn’t have to devices they didn’t
>>>>>>> understand.   And yeah 6 total.  There were 5 when I first wrote the
>>>>>>> bewildered email about it.  That does make me consider which person 
>>>>>>> might
>>>>>>> deserve the proposed the knee breaking accident.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Two were the 450i which have the very convenient recovery mode
>>>>>>> feature.  Three of the others we got back by getting in through the
>>>>>>> wireless side with an SM.   The last was a 3.5ghz 450 (not 450i).  So no
>>>>>>> recovery mode, and you know since the AP can’t talk to the SAS no SM 
>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>> be authorized and an SM without a SAS grant doesn’t bridge traffic.  
>>>>>>> That
>>>>>>> one was a tower climb with a default plug…….no other choice.  I don’t 
>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>> what individual did it, but I hope they are mercilessly heckled by their
>>>>>>> coworkers.  And I do appreciate the mafioso knee breaking jokes, but I
>>>>>>> don’t actually wish them any injury.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Adam
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *castarritt
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 22, 2022 6:06 PM
>>>>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] The weirdest coincidence
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There are rumors that I might on occasion reboot the 450 AP when I
>>>>>>> mean to reboot an SM, but nothing proven...  I also came this >< close 
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> rebooting core NAT router once before I realized the winbox session I 
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>> looking at wasn't the one I had open for that customer's managed wi-fi
>>>>>>> router.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 2:22 PM Steve Jones <
>>>>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sounds like maybe you send me an address and maybe a noob takes a
>>>>>>> few weeks off to let a knee injury heal. Just sayin, noobs are clumsy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 22, 2022, 1:21 PM Colin Stanners <cstann...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That brings up big questions of why the noob thought they'd have
>>>>>>> permission to do that, and why someone gave them a password with AP 
>>>>>>> control
>>>>>>> access.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 12:23 PM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nevermind.  Some noob was shutting off Aps trying to disable users.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* dmmoff...@gmail.com <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 22, 2022 1:07 PM
>>>>>>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com>
>>>>>>> *Subject:* The weirdest coincidence
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just had five different PMP450 AP’s go down at the same time at
>>>>>>> five different towers.  In all cases the switch reports link, but I get
>>>>>>> zero Rx traffic.  Power cycle doesn’t bring any of them back up.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> WTF just happened?  Some kind of bug?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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