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> *From: *"Craig Baird" <cr...@xpressweb.com>
> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Sent: *Friday, March 4, 2022 9:52:24 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] POTS line over IP network?
>
> Also, regarding just going with VOIP, that was my first thought. However,
> I have yet to find a VOIP provider that can port our small town's local
> numbers.
>
> Craig
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> On Fri, Mar 4, 2022 at 7:25 AM Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com>
> wrote:
>
>> 1) If you have an ethernet network in place couldn't you just steal a
>> pair?
>> 2) Why bother with converting POTs ->IP -> POTS?  Just get rid of the
>> pots line and replace it with a VOIP line.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 7:37 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Good cordless phone.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Mar 3, 2022, at 6:09 PM, Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> Don't touch this. It'll be a support disaster and waste of your time.
>>> Have them contact the telco to run a new cable on the outside or bury it to
>>> that restaurant. Whatever doesn't involve you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 3, 2022, 1:00 PM Daniel White <dwh...@atheral.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've not personally done this, but I'd be a Grandstream HT801 for the
>>>> FXS port and a Grandstream HT813 for the FXO port would work.
>>>>
>>>> This document outlines the config -
>>>> https://www.grandstream.com/hubfs/Product_Documentation/Peering_HT8XX_with_HT813.pdf?hsLang=en
>>>>
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>>>> Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com>
>>>> March 3, 2022 at 11:06
>>>> I have done it with FXS to FXO ATAs.
>>>>
>>>> *From:* dmmoff...@gmail.com
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 3, 2022 10:55 AM
>>>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] POTS line over IP network?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yeah.  The Linksys/Sipura SPA equipment could do that.  You’d get a
>>>> device with the FXO port on one end (I think SPA3000) and then an ATA at
>>>> the other end.
>>>>
>>>> I don’t think that feature set survived the transition to Cisco…..I’m
>>>> afraid I don’t know the modern equivalent.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Adtran Total Access can do that too, but that’s an expensive solution
>>>> for a gift shop.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Asterisk boxes with an FXO card on one end and FXS card on the
>>>> other…..a little creativity with the dialplan and you’re off to the races.
>>>> That might be cheap enough, but this may not be practical for everyone.
>>>> I’m pretty certain it would work, it would just burn a lot of your time.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I’d hope somebody here knows the current good/cheap option, but I’m
>>>> afraid I don’t.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On
>>>> Behalf Of *Craig Baird
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 03, 2022 12:48 PM
>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>>>> <af@af.afmug.com>
>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] POTS line over IP network?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Is anyone aware of a device that will take a POTS line from the telco,
>>>> convert it to IP, and then somewhere on the network convert it back into a
>>>> normal analog POTs line to plug into an analog handset?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Basically, I have a customer who owns a gift shop. They have a
>>>> restaurant in a separate building behind the gift shop. Currently, they
>>>> have a POTS line that is strung from the demarc, and across the ceiling of
>>>> the gift shop. At the rear, it exits the gift shop and makes its way into
>>>> the restaurant where it eventually plugs into a phone. They want to get rid
>>>> of the wire that runs across the ceiling because it looks crazy stupid.
>>>> Unfortunately, there's a reason the wire was originally run that way--there
>>>> isn't really another way to get it to the restaurant without tearing a
>>>> bunch of stuff apart (lack of attic and crawlspace). However, I do have an
>>>> ethernet network in place between the two buildings, and can relatively
>>>> easily get a wire from the demarc to a network switch.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So, what I'm envisioning is a pair of boxes. One of the boxes plugs
>>>> into Ethernet has an FXS port to plug in the POTS line. The other box, also
>>>> plugs into Ethernet and has an FXO port to plug in the phone. They see each
>>>> other over the IP network, and magically transport the POTS line to where
>>>> it needs to be.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Do such devices exist?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Craig
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> dmmoff...@gmail.com
>>>> March 3, 2022 at 10:55
>>>>
>>>> Yeah.  The Linksys/Sipura SPA equipment could do that.  You’d get a
>>>> device with the FXO port on one end (I think SPA3000) and then an ATA at
>>>> the other end.
>>>>
>>>> I don’t think that feature set survived the transition to Cisco…..I’m
>>>> afraid I don’t know the modern equivalent.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Adtran Total Access can do that too, but that’s an expensive solution
>>>> for a gift shop.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Asterisk boxes with an FXO card on one end and FXS card on the
>>>> other…..a little creativity with the dialplan and you’re off to the races.
>>>> That might be cheap enough, but this may not be practical for everyone.
>>>> I’m pretty certain it would work, it would just burn a lot of your time.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I’d hope somebody here knows the current good/cheap option, but I’m
>>>> afraid I don’t.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On
>>>> Behalf Of *Craig Baird
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 03, 2022 12:48 PM
>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>>>> <af@af.afmug.com>
>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] POTS line over IP network?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Is anyone aware of a device that will take a POTS line from the telco,
>>>> convert it to IP, and then somewhere on the network convert it back into a
>>>> normal analog POTs line to plug into an analog handset?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Basically, I have a customer who owns a gift shop. They have a
>>>> restaurant in a separate building behind the gift shop. Currently, they
>>>> have a POTS line that is strung from the demarc, and across the ceiling of
>>>> the gift shop. At the rear, it exits the gift shop and makes its way into
>>>> the restaurant where it eventually plugs into a phone. They want to get rid
>>>> of the wire that runs across the ceiling because it looks crazy stupid.
>>>> Unfortunately, there's a reason the wire was originally run that way--there
>>>> isn't really another way to get it to the restaurant without tearing a
>>>> bunch of stuff apart (lack of attic and crawlspace). However, I do have an
>>>> ethernet network in place between the two buildings, and can relatively
>>>> easily get a wire from the demarc to a network switch.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So, what I'm envisioning is a pair of boxes. One of the boxes plugs
>>>> into Ethernet has an FXS port to plug in the POTS line. The other box, also
>>>> plugs into Ethernet and has an FXO port to plug in the phone. They see each
>>>> other over the IP network, and magically transport the POTS line to where
>>>> it needs to be.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Do such devices exist?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Craig
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Craig Baird <cr...@xpressweb.com>
>>>> March 3, 2022 at 10:47
>>>> Is anyone aware of a device that will take a POTS line from the telco,
>>>> convert it to IP, and then somewhere on the network convert it back into a
>>>> normal analog POTs line to plug into an analog handset?
>>>>
>>>> Basically, I have a customer who owns a gift shop. They have a
>>>> restaurant in a separate building behind the gift shop. Currently, they
>>>> have a POTS line that is strung from the demarc, and across the ceiling of
>>>> the gift shop. At the rear, it exits the gift shop and makes its way into
>>>> the restaurant where it eventually plugs into a phone. They want to get rid
>>>> of the wire that runs across the ceiling because it looks crazy stupid.
>>>> Unfortunately, there's a reason the wire was originally run that way--there
>>>> isn't really another way to get it to the restaurant without tearing a
>>>> bunch of stuff apart (lack of attic and crawlspace). However, I do have an
>>>> ethernet network in place between the two buildings, and can relatively
>>>> easily get a wire from the demarc to a network switch.
>>>>
>>>> So, what I'm envisioning is a pair of boxes. One of the boxes plugs
>>>> into Ethernet has an FXS port to plug in the POTS line. The other box, also
>>>> plugs into Ethernet and has an FXO port to plug in the phone. They see each
>>>> other over the IP network, and magically transport the POTS line to where
>>>> it needs to be.
>>>>
>>>> Do such devices exist?
>>>>
>>>> Craig
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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